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photohunt
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Looking at the amount of doe permits available most areas do not have a large deer population. How has that affected you about where you go or decide to hunt?
Posts: 7 | From: Holland, Michigan | Registered: Feb 2005  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
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I hunt in the Southern counties most of the time. I also hit the U.P. when I can. I have seen very few deer across the bridge, but it won't ever keep me from going. It isn't about deer as much as it is about camp, the guys, the peace etc. Deer are the least important, just a bonus.

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I hunt mainly in the Manistee National Forest and the numbers have been low for at least 10 years. I still go because that's where my camp is.

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A deer population well under the carrying capacity is going to be the norm from here on out.

I have not travelled to the U.P. to deer hunt for over 10 years because of the ridiculously low deer numbers. I figure the people who live up there are entitled to some relief from Trolls like me.

From my scouting in the N.E. lower, deer numbers are about the same as last year. At least there are some tracks in the sand. WAY better than a couple years back.

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"A deer population well under the carrying capacity is going to be the norm from here on out."

Bonebuster is right, those of us that have been hunting awhile need to adjust to the new normal. Start saying we had high populations in the 80s and 90s and now we have normal populations.

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Makes "Let 'em go and let em' grow" even harder to do for some hunters. I never have, so my adjustment will be quick!
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I'm in the Northwest MI QDM area. I'm yet to see a leagal buck while hunting since it when in effect 2 years ago. I don't think many are "lettin em grow".

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My brother in law has a place near Leland. They see a few older bucks every season. But, that's very agricultural through there, low pressure and lots of empty house and cottages by October.

I like to eat venison. I leave the does alone for the most part. Maybe take one every few seasons, I see few. I will take the first legal buck I come across quite often. I figure its the best critter to take out of the herd when numbers are like they are.

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I have to agree that the deer herd we are currently experience is the new normal. Between the liberal doe tags, extended and new hunting seasons for every and all the special groups and weapons used plus all the diseases we are now encounteing we are just going to need to adjust the way we hunt and where we hunt.

Being a deer hunter I will attempt to harvest what I legally can whether it be a buck or doe if the area I hunt has the numbers to support what's legal. As we all know just because it's legal doesn't necessarily mean it's the best practice. For example when the EHD hit our area it was legal to hunt my area, but all of the neighbors got together and WE decided not to hunt our property's for two years. This is the third year and we are seeing a new health herd.

So I believe deer hunting will be different going forward, so we will need to adapt and overcome!

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It will make the already special feeling of shooting a deer even more special when we have to hunt harder for them, Jeff.
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Part of what always made hunting special was "the wise use"..."taking the surplus" of a renewable resource.

In reality, many areas have NO "surplus", so "wise use" is an oxymoron.

Where I hunt, numbers ARE better than a few years ago.

I may even consider killing a deer this year.

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They started the QDM about 3 years ago in the area that I hunt. Last year was the best year in many years for seeing deer and especially larger rack bucks.

I have chosen not to take a shot with a bow for 3 years now. Just don't want to I guess. I get really excited for my grandkids when they come in after a hunt. Love listening to their stories seeing deer. Last year my 12 year old grandson shot his first deer with a bow. what an adventure for him and me.

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Numbers are pretty good around me. Completely out of wack buck to doe ratio though. I counted 102 deer in one heard destroying the soybean field behind my house this winter. I figure things must have been tough for them to be grinding through that stuff in january. I did the smart thing and took pictures and video of all the deer. Brought that to the farmer and was able to obtain permission this year. I plan on shooting at least 4 does this year. I think the numbers in the UP were much higher than what that landscape should be able to hold due to the agriculture. Numbers are much closer to what they were pre farming. Old growth forest is a veritable wasteland for large fauna.
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