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Rik
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I was waiting for Doug to fill in the details above, I didn't want to steal his thunder. As you can see, the DAS performed even beyond expectations. I'm a longbow guy, but man, I have to admit, those DAS bows are something else. Before I switched over to longbows, my recurves were all 85 pounds at 28 inches, and they were fast, very fast. Doug's lightweight DAS makes them look like weak sisters, seriously.

You asked about barefoot action? Well, I think Doug had his boots on, but on my second buffalo, Billy and I dropped packs and boots and went after a herd bull, thinking we would quicky get busted by him or his many cows, so it would be a short stalk. But on a bull that size, a guys gotta try anyway, right?

Two hours and 1.7 tenderfooted miles later, never being more than 70 yards behind the bull and several times being well under 20 yards, I laced him through the heart at 18 yards. He was rutting so hard he never even knew he had been hit. He died about 12 steps from there. Well, that's when I realized I had to walk back another tenderfooted 1.7 miles to get my boots, and even more importantly---drinking water. Man it gets hot in Australia!

For comparison sake regarding the DAS, I was shooting a 75-pound Howard Hill Wesley special, and Ipe arrows tipped with 160-grain Grizzly broadheads (860 grains total). On my first bull, which was laying down when I shot, the arrow went through the sternum, up through the heart, and lodged up in the spine with the fletching sticking straight down between his two front legs. I hit the second bull right in the crease, slightly quartering away. The broadhead cut a big rib horizontally, centered the heart, and stuck deep in a far rib. Doug's bow, being much lighter in weight, drove the broadheads clear out the other side of his bulls. Think what they will do on elk!

One more thing, everyone seems to be most interested in the penetration performance of the DAS, but they are forgetting its most important feature, and that is AMAZINGLY CONSISTENT ACCURACY. After two arrows, I can shoot the things better than any bow I have ever owned. If you want to consistently shoot knocks off and have ultra-tight arrow groups, get a DAS. You'll see what I mean.

P.S. I think we may have to get Doug back on here, as it seems he skewered a 6x6 bull with his DAS bow Sunday morning. He might have an interesting story to tell there too.

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Al Kidner
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Thanks Rik, I'm sure you'll be back here in Oz working under Bill's spells soon.

In Oz, alan

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G'day guys, Well Rik I'm going to have a go at posting a couple of my photos on here with this but as you would I'm just about computer illiterate.
We are also still on dail-up here in our little village so this whole process is about as slow as as an Idaho mountainman without shoes.LOL.
That's Rik with the fallen Buff after that long barefoot stalk and a Classic 18yard heart shot.
The guy with the handsome PINK pack is our old mate Mr.Doug Chase and as you can see he's hanging onto that recurve fairly tightly, even though we all offered to carry it for him.
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Unbelievable after only one hour I've got it there!

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Al Kidner
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Good pics mate. See... you can teach an ol dog new tricks!

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Ben Kleinig
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Great stories and photos, lads! Thank you, and well-done!

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Longbowwally
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Not trying to knock the DAS because they are fine bows - and I know from having shot one. However, as far as comparing penetration of Riks kills to Doug's, I would lean toward the arrow difference between the two causing the increase in penetration.
The little skinny carbon SST's loaded heavy up front are the ultimate in penetration and I'm sure if Rik used them with his longbow he would be amazed at how much better they penetrate over his wood arrows.
To think the bow is such a big factor, especially since it was a lot lighter in draw weight, just doesn't compute to me. Of course that 31" draw probably factors in to increase performance also. JMHO

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Torben Jensen
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Anybody know what the spine is on the SST 240 arrows from Cabelas ?
I guess it would be logical to expect a spine of
240 but I don't think there is made arrows that stiff at all ? The stiffest I have yet seen is 300.
Torben

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bayoulongbowman
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Ipe arrows I read about another hunter shooting that type of arrow...where is good source for Ipe shafts???? Awesome story thanks for sharing , that DAS must be the Real Deal!!! [thumbsup] [campfire] [wavey]

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duncan idaho
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Bob Burton, who i believe is the owner of Whispering Wind Arrows, according to several articles i have read, has the ipe wood arrows. he is located in Montana.

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Try Allegany for ipe. I've heard him mention them at a show.
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bayoulongbowman
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thanks!!!!!!!!!! marco#78:)

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Ron Chambers
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What bow poundages do you guys recommend. What weight arrow?
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