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EwokArcher
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Welp. Live and learn. So I was lowering poundage on this here Kenny m that turned out at about 65 pound at 26 inches. New belt on my sander took off glass way quicker than I was expecting and here is the result...
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Now this is all clear glass went with desert camo lams and handle all about 120$ worth of material. This is a bow for myself.

I have a couple ideas in mind to maybe save it.
1- sand off my tip and prep the end so I could be shingle on a new piece of glass that would cover the whole end of the bow and then put on a new tip.
2- use my smooth on and glue down a lil piece of glass into my mess up then sand smooth.
3-ignore it and hope it goes away.
I appreciate your input, total length 61 inches currently 60 inches NTN.

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kennym
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Ouch Ty!!

# 3 ain't gonna work.

#2 probably won't either.

# 1 "might" if you make a long scarf joint on the glass. You will be relying on mostly glue strength on a narrow area.

Personally, I wouldn't trust it, especially if somebody else ever shot it. Actually if only I shot it.

When one blows up in hand, you never forget it...

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well...
i would cut that piece and make the bow shorter. i know it is going to increase the power but better to stay safe...

best.

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Pago
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I propose option #4. Make a mixture of wood flour and epoxy and fill that divot. Scarf joint the glass but grind that tip off first and run the new glass from the scarf to the tip. Glue a piece of thin black glass on top of the scarf all the way to the tip then reconstruct your tip. Make sure the black glass completely covers the scarf. It's what I would do and it may not work but I hate to give up to and hope it helps. If you do this you may need to approximate the same modification on the other tip.

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Bowjunkie
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5. It's ruined. Pitch it. Start another.

Stay away from aggressive power tools when doing delicate things like glass bow weight reduction and tip shaping.

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Bert Frelink
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It's not ruined, grind the tip overlay and glass off(carefully) scarf joint another piece of glass to replace the end piece, glue on another piece of glass to cover the glass joint underneath and replace your tip overlay.
You would be way better of to round the edges to loose weight than grinding the surface glass, maybe tuck that away for next time.
Good luck, let us know things work out for you.
Regards.
Bert

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fujimo
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as big Bert says- round edges and trap to help drop weight- i would glue on overlays like Bert says- then narrow the tips- so almost like a Holmgard type bow.- just do both tips the same!
x2 whqt Bowjunkie says about power tools- we have all faced the wrath of the runaway sander/grinder [Big Grin]

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cut the tips right off- and z splice in some static tip recurves, and maybe a nice neat epoxy saturated wrap over the join- might as well try something funky!- but that will add poundage too!
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Bvas
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Take this for what it is wort as I am NOT an experienced bowyer. I would make sure that I learned from my mistake. I would hand sand all the fiberglass from that limb to the center of the riser, replace that piece of glass, and cover joint on the riser with an overlay.
It might not work, but by the time I was done I will have learned my lesson, and only be out another $5-10 for half a fiberglass lam.

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I feel your biggest issue is that there is a chance of delamination... If you are bent on salvaging it I would do what Bert and Pago suggested... But to keep from delamming and to strengthen the joints I would put that top layer of glass about an 1 1/2" pass the scarf joint and feather it to nothing... Take some epoxy and wet out the area to be wrapped with cotton... Take cotton thread and start wrapping your limb about a 1/4" before the end of the F/G taper and wrap it up to about a 1/2" past the scarf joint... Saturate the cotton well with epoxy... Could probably use ea-40 if it is warmed up enough so that it is on the thin side... Or just wrap with the cotton and saturate later with thin super glue... Might work... There are no guarantees... That is a heavy bow...
If you hear any creaking or cracking that is probably the F/G delamming... The wrap will probably buy you some time so the bow does not blow without warning...

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If shortening the bow isn't an option I would not chance a repair. Chalk it up as a 120.00 lesson and move on. Way cheaper than any hospital visit! And no matter what anyone tells you , you can't replace an eye! Lol.
I would never sand glass to try to reduce weight. I'll sand on the belly to adjust tiller but never as an option to drop weight. Trapping and rounding will shed some weight but only so much.

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I've messed up bows too. I've patched some up that held together. But it was always in the back of my mind shooting them, that what if it lets go and I get hurt or someone else does. So I finally cut them into pieces and moved on. Is it worth the possible consequences?
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kenneth butler
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Do away with the divot. Cut the tips off at the string grooves. Sand flat to divot depth & taper in. Replace the tip spacers to cover past the area and reinforce it. File the string grooves in only a 1/2 or so back from where they were. End up with slightly shorter tips,slightly longer tip spacers with out increasing the weight so much. leaving no splice. Reduce weight from sides and or trapping. Just thinking out loud. good luck Ken
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jsweka
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Either pitch it and chalk it up to experience or pike it and find someone who can pull that much draw weight.

Whenever I need to reduce weight, I narrow and/or trap the limbs towards the back. I've always been too afraid the sand the glass. It just doesn't seem like a good idea, although that's how some do it.

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EwokArcher
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Hard lessons stick the best I guess. I'm gonna sand it out flat and scarf it. I think this tip won't have any trouble handling it as there is no bending going on there. I'll post pics and give it a good stress test on the tree before I shoot it. Now black glass so I have a stark reminder or clear to camo my mess up... hmmm...
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