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Larry- I am very happy that you enjoy seeing all this stuff as much as I like to show it to you.I'll keep it coming as long as I can keep finiding it.There is a wealth of information on this site for all of us trad guys and I too can't get enough.
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I thought I might add this. This is B 1002. It was originally owned by the great Alaskan Bowhunter George Moerlein. He shot a World Record (P & Y) American Bison with it in 1972. I do not know much about Mr. Moerlein, but I have seen a few pictures of him with this bow, so it may have been his go to bow. It is currently part of The Pope & Young Museum collection. All specs are identical to the two handles John posted. Enjoy... Posts: 215 | From: Michigan | Registered: Aug 2010
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Don- That is too cool! Thank you so much for posting those pictures of B1002.It fits perfectly with this thread.There is an A-riser with the same serial number.Now that would make a real nice pair.Great photos.
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Almost wrote to you that I would trade my Takedown Grumley for the signed TD riser, and thought twice. lol
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Well,I've got a minute before I leave for work so I'll try to finish the story of the latches. I was told that shortly before these risers were to be shown to the public,Fred was at the plant late one evening doing some last minute experimenting with the bows.My friend received a phone call at his house from Fred telling him that they had a problem and he needed him to come back to the plant.So back to the plant he went to find Fred looking distraught with a red bandana wrapped around his lower leg and blood trickling from beneath it.Fred was testing to see what would happen to the bows if a string were to break unexpectedley so he was holding the bow with his foot and drawing the string back with one hand and then cut the string with the other.The limbs had somehow popped out of the sockets and ended up whacking Fred in the shin.He needed to know why this happened as they couldn't have this problem with the new bows.After some further research including some high-speed filming,it was determined that the latch was slipping out from underneath the samll spring loaded keeper that holds it down.Both the end of the latch and the keeper were flat on the ends and the stress concentrated on that portion of the limb caused the latch to flex slightly and slip out from underneath the keeper.So they decided the solution to the problem was to change both the end of the latch and the keeper so they were "hooked" at the end and not flat.This small change seemed to work with no further problems.I always found that story interesting,to know the amount of thought that went into even the smallest detail of these remarkable bows.Here are some photos showing the earlier flat latch system and the "new and improved" system with the hooked ends.Riser # B1007 has the flat latches and riser # B1008 has the new system.You can see that the latch itself on # B1008 is made from a different metal than the socket,more of a black color instead of the grey colored metal on the socket itself.The same black latch appears to be found on the production models.
Note the flat ends of the latch and keeper on B1007: Also note that some of the keepers were sort of "T-shaped" whereas some others only had the hook on one side. Here is the new and improved latch on B1008.You can see the slight hook on both parts: Can you see the darker colored,black latch on B1008?
I just thought that was an interesting story in regards to these wonderful bows.Hope you enjoyed seeing history in the making. Posts: 1150 | From: Michigan | Registered: Dec 2003
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John, It's interesting how the C riser retained much of the prototype 'socket to wood design" you show here in pics.
Thank you again for all the pictures, stories and history of these magnificent works of Fred Bear.
Your stocks have surpassed facebook stocks!
I would like to purchase some shares..........Philip
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Thanks so much Johnny for posting! I wasn't aware of these preserie TD! Now I think I have just to send you some good Parmigiano-Reggiano(Parmesan is the fake staff) for enjoy those ravioli with Philip!
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Thanks Felix.You know there's always room for one more at the table when it comes to Italians.You like ravioli,don't you?
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Philip- I noticed that too,how the C-riser kept that shape where the riser meets the latches.If my stock were worth what the Facebook stock is,I would gladly be selling shares.Lots of them!!
Felix- You are so right.Gotta have the "real" cheese if you're going to have "real" home-made ravioli.I would rather you hand deliver the cheese to my house so you can show me the proper way to apply it to my ravioli.LOL
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When ever Felix gets to posting,I always get hungry. I REALLY need to save up for a trip.
Johnny, Your collection and the stories that go with are great. Thanks for sharing.
I am of German/Native American decent, but I like Ravioli too.(and cheese,wine,take downs) LOL Thanks guys, Have a great day,
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Chuck- Sounds like you would fit right in on our little Italian dinner.You would be more than welcome and you would have a lot less travel time than either Phil or Felix.In all honesty,you are welcome to stop by anytime if you would like a closer look at the risers(or anything else).
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Thank you Johnny, I have been to Italy several times. I loved it an really want to go visit with Felix and the mountains. If I ever get down that way I will see about a visit. THANK YOU for the offer.
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Chuck- Where about are you in Michigan? Just wondering how far of a trip you would have if you did make it down my way.I'm only about 2.5 hrs. from Grayling.About 2 hrs. from Clare.1 hr. from Birch Run.Got plenty of room if you need more than 1 day. John
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Chuck,you are always welcome like the other friends down here. Kevin Bahr,former president of the PBS and member here, and fimily just left on yesterday,happy for the stop and the wine. He was able to hunt one night with a bow of my collection:a 1955 Kodiak signed by Fred.No luck that evening,but we were able to get close to a Ibex sheep the next day.
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