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The fades are the wedge in the middle of the limb where they mount to the riser. As it goes off into the limbs they... fade... away...
Posts: 618 | From: Central Wisconsin | Registered: May 2006
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Bob; I'm afraid i'm with Chris on this one. Positive Tiller generally means the distance from the limb fadeout to the string at 90 degrees is more than the distance measured at the same spot on the lower limb, approx. 1/8 to 1/4' max. it can be measured in8th or 16 teenths' it doesn't matter. bows shot 3 fingers under are tillered even on both limbs or 1/8th more on the lower limb depending on the amount of pressure one puts on the lower limb, for example by heeling the bow. Actually the correct term for "tiller" is "static balance" , because the string is at rest when this is measured. The greatest benefit of tillering for 3 fingers under is a quieter shooting bow, other than that i don't find much if any difference.
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On tds you can just measure at the limb butt next to the riser.As long as it is the same place that you measure from it will work.
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Ok, I measured the tiller on my martin savannah and my martin dreamcatcher. Both are dead even at the fades and both, I nock the top of the nock of the arrow 1/2" over center shooting 3under.
On my zipper, I measure more than a 1/4" difference with the top being 8 1/4" from limb butt to string and bottom being 7 7/8" from limb butt to string. So that means my zipper is tillered for split finger? But strange thing is my zipper likes the nock point to be only 3/8" over center shooting 3 under!!
Sorry for these stupid questions. But seriously, you guys are really helping me.
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Where is the center of the pivot point??!! Sorry man but it is relative. So is length of working limb, is one fade farther from center or equal, etc. You can't focus on 1 feature and say ok this is right wrong or whatever.
Posts: 618 | From: Central Wisconsin | Registered: May 2006
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But to add even more to the complexity, the top limb unbraced is 25" long and the bottom limb is 24.5". Unbraced, the zipper is 58" long from nock to nock point but shelf is 28 1/2" from top of top limb and pivot point on handle is 29 1/2" from top of top limb.
I am trying in my head to figure out how this thing is balanced. Ah shoot, lets just it and be happy.
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On my Martin Dreamcatcher that was tillered even at the fades I measure 56" total length from tip to tip, with pivot point right at 28". This bow likes its nocking point (top of the arrow nock)to be 1/2" over center (pretty high).
Reason I am asking all these qeustions is I am taking a bow making class and would like to understand the basics before I start cuttin. I am also reading thru the bowyers trad bible vol 1 and 2.
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I don't know no "Tillered 3under". I just know me, "3under"!
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Dang, I thought you guys shot these bows because they were simple. For years guys have been telling me to get rid of those complicated training wheel bows and go simple. I'm not sure I'm smart enough for this. My head is going to explode.
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Well, hoyt it is simple if just buyin them and shootin em. But I plan on building them. Or attempting
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