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My 2006 Wrangler Rubicon looks a lot like Larry's son's jeep. I also have a 2007 Commander, and have owned Jeeps for almost 30 years now, including Cherokees. I bought the 06 Wrangler when the 07s were announced with a V6 minivan engine. The 4.0 liter straight 6 is bulletproof, and the V6 unproven.
My son just bought an 04 Wrangler unlimited, and loves it. It holds his family of 4, plus a large Lab.
All of the disadvantages outlined here are true. Mileage is poor for its size, and the tank is relatively small, but for all its disadvantages, owning a Jeep is a choice a lot like choosing traditional equipment over modern compound bows. The Jeep has a history and tradition that no toyota will ever have.
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I bought a small truck once! Owned for about two months and traded it on a full size truck. What you make up for in gas you lose in room and comfort.
Dale you'll miss your pickup!
Chuck
-------------------- " It's not the breath you take, it's the moments that take your breath away" Posts: 341 | From: S.W. PA | Registered: Sep 2004
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I had an 05' 4 cyl. wrangler and got 22 to 24. It was week as water and the soft top leaked from the day I got it. I had a 99' 4.0 hard top that I loved and averaged 18 miles to the gallon. Get the hard top! I also had a 2001 tacaoma 4 cyl. got 20 miles to the gallon with oversized tires and it towed my pop-up fine. I even toted a pallet of commercial tile, about 1600 pounds, 50 miles with no prob. In short if you buy a small truck get a toyota. If you buy a jeep get a 6 cyl. hard top. Both of them do what you need in the woods. They are gonna get the same gas miledge in my expieriance. If you have a jeep you need a rack for dead animals unless you wanna smell em all the way home, The truck is more versitile. Imho I would get a 4 door short bed taco with the TRD package for the locking rear diff.
-------------------- It's not the arrival, it's the journey. Posts: 1704 | From: Back in North GA FOREVER | Registered: Jul 2007
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Hey Dale, I have an 07 4-door wrangler. Looks just like Ron's. I was getting 20 mpg with the stock mickey mouse tires, when I put 33's on it milage dropped to 17.5mpg. V6 and 6 speed, tow pack. with 4.10 gears. By the way it hauls my 62in bow easily in the back seat or in the rear cargo area. I love it for that. I can put all my stuff: trees stand , bow etc. and still take someone with me. Put a hitch hauler on it for deer and trash runs. I usaully put the hardtop on during deer season so I can leave my gear in it all season, more secure that way. Please head this advice:o7 has a lotta bugs, get an 08. Get skid plate for oil pan, it is very very exposed. Did I mention the skid plate is exposed? Hope this helped ya.
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Oh, I forgot. If you forget the hitch hauler, you can put a deer in the back.
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jeeps are cool,chicks love jeeps Not very practical for a commuter vehicle,not a lot of room for stuff in the 2 door versions.I just don't like the fact that dodge is making them now.All the dodges I've had have been unreliable.The newer 4 door versions look like they have more room and the new modular top system is an improvement.
CB
-------------------- "Forget your lust for the rich mans gold all that you need is in your soul...Find a woman and you'll find love and don't forget son,there is someone up above...Ronnie Van Zant "simple man" Posts: 1303 | From: Down on the bayou | Registered: Sep 2003
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I put a Hitch-Haul that's made in Georgia by a good ole boy, so my Evangelist Baptist neighbor from GA told me. I like to keep my jeep as low as I can and it's easier for an oldefarte like me to snatch and pull a deer on the back. So I didn't put a lift kit on; just bigger tires.
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2002 Tacoma 4x4, 6 cyl, double cab. 21 mpg hwy. 97,000 miles on it. Replaced one light bulb and a set of tires. Expect it to last another 100K easily with few problems. Hard to argue with that.
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"Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." Martin Luther King, Jr. Posts: 1696 | From: St Simons Island, GA | Registered: Sep 2005
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Love my Jeep - '67 CJ5. Not an every day rig though.
-------------------- "Who's shooting the girly bow?" - My wife Vicki's comment to one of my X-bow hunting buddies. Posts: 583 | From: Ontario, Canada | Registered: Aug 2003
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I just sold my toyota xcab 4x4 to a buddy, after buying it new and driving/hunting it for 19 years. It is still in great shape and he'll use it on his place until he's tired of seeing it, just like me.
I got a 2000 tacoma 4x4 xcab now, more powerful v6, locking rear end, auto trans, I'm not gonna know what to do with all that.
In other parts of the world where they dont fool with stupid stuff like EPA restrictions they have a truck called the Hilux, made by toyota. Heavy suspension, diesel engine, four door, 4x4. This machine will literally go anywhere you have the balls to drive it. I have some experience with these in Afghanistan, and they are awesome. I just wish we could get them here.
Make mine a toyt.
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Go check out the taco's. I have a 2000 Tacoma, 4 cyl, 4x4, auto, regular cab with 180,000 miles on it and it still going strong. The only major problem ive had is with the exhaust manifold they cracking in the center, so I fixed that problem by puting a pace setter header on it. I get 24 mpg highway with a volant cold air intake, header, no catalytic converter, flow master muffler and 31-10.50x15 tires. I got about 26 mpg before I did all that stuff, but at least it sounds cool.
GO TACO'S !!!!!!
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Maybe I'm confused (again)... I thought this thread was about recommending a quality hunting truck... Now it seems to be drifting into politics.
I smell a lockdown...
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"Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." Martin Luther King, Jr. Posts: 1696 | From: St Simons Island, GA | Registered: Sep 2005
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OK I own one in a silver color like Ron's. Bought a soft and hard top for it. So far it has withstood a 70mph crash and lived to tell about it. It has survived an elk hunt in Colorado and drove comfortably the 22 hours from the Ill flatlands. It has survived my two kids thus far aside from gummy worm stains and spilled chocolate milk (ages 4 and 6).
Gas mileage is as stated above. I pull a pop-up with no problems and I modified a hitch haul so that when I open the back swing gate I have room. I traded a 2500 Chevy Diesel truck for it and have never looked back. For bowhunting it rocks! Plenty of room for gear and I use the hitch haul to haul out critters...so far used it three times and those dead deer arrived just as secure to my shop than if they were in a pickemup.
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WOW I came home to a pile of posts!! THANK You all!!
I'm kinda "pickup-ed out". Maybe because the Ram 1500 can seat 6. My kids grew up in this truck.
I could stuff most everything I wanted in there too. It's been quite loyal and frankly a good truck. My 2 older kids are now starting to drive. Soon I wont need the big truck anymore.
If any truck is worth anything- a trad guy most likely owns it. Hence my thread. For instance I'm sure if Ron has one and likes his, most likely it's a good dependable vehicle. If the secretary at work that has never been in the woods has one and loves it- it doesnt mean as much to me.
When I took one for a ride, my main worry was the reliability of the V6. You cant tell in 15 minutes. I dont plan on a Rubicon, but the Sahara with the 6 spd manual is what I'm looking for. Both tops are also mandatory for me.
FWIW- the other vehicle I am considering is a Toyota but not the pickup truck. I also like the FJ Cruiser. But it's a bit more expensive than the Jeep, but I do know the quality of Toyota trucks.
Again Thanks for the responses!
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