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I have brought a video camera along on all of my solo hunts. The extra effort was well worth it to me to be able to share my experiences with friends and family for years to come.
On the other hand, someone could say, “Yes it was worth it to you because you took some of your footage and made a movie that you sold.” They would be correct, but in response I could offer the following testimony that I just received today.
“Mike, thank you for making "Primal Dreams". I watched your dvd this weekend with my wife L.... Your dvd is great. My 2 sons were busy running in and out, but they would stop each time through the living room and ask, "what's that?" or "wow" or "who is that guy?" or "Dad, where is that location?" I ended up watching it a second time. Mike, as you know you did a great job. I was carrying around a small picture of my brother and I from 1970, we were holding up our 1st rabbit. I was 10 and he was older. He is holding the rabbit and I am holding the one bb gun. I remember my mom cooking it for us. After I watched your dvd I went to Walgreens and had a 8 X10 made up and framed of our first rabbit picture. It's hanging by the fishing pictures of my sons and my wife with their fish. Thanks for bringing this beauty to us and helping us think of our memories of the outdoors. We bought a big camera 25 years ago with a zoom lens. The pictures have been scanned into the our computer. The pheasants in the snow storm, the lighthouses, the fishing pictures and the thousand other pictures and memories flooded back by watching your neat dvd. A thousand pictures of climbing the rocks at Baraboo, Wisconsin and pictures of our many campsites along with a long walks and rides on our bikes have been scanned in. Once again I thank you. My thoughts are positive and I can't wait to get out and enjoy the outdoors. After watching your dvd I also sanded down a great walking stick. I hope this" thank you" is appropriate.
Thank you Rich P…..”
So, I definitely do see both sides of it and respect others opinions. Videos can be used in a positive way and inspire other to do great things. Mike
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I never have thought of hunting as a sport,its more of a scared act (to me). I agree if someone wants to video there hunt thats fine. If it weren't for marketing the T.V. shows and most videos would not be out there. I have my own video that plays in my mind, there are very few I do not remember as if it where yesterday even my first deer so many years ago.
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Primal Dreams compared to the average hunting video, is like comparing the Encyclopedia Brittanica to a comic book Mike 8^). I consider that video as one to be shown in schools....not for the entertainment of fools.
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I take my video camera here & there to film my hunts.... I wouldn't mind to have others seeing it. I guess it comes down to how You want to remember any hunt....
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George, is the act of videoing a hunt and sharing that video what turns you off or is it that you associate videos with commercial versions that you find distasteful and that association turns you off? I think videos can be used in any number of positive ways: a tool to review how well hit the animal really was, an educational tool, a memory keepsake, a poetic/artistic expression. It can be negative as well, it all depends on what you intend to do with it and how skilled you are in doing that. I have videoed hunts with my friends and I enjoy watching them every now and then. I don't think I have the skills necessary to convey what I want with the camera, my efforts are pure home movie quality but I've seen some nice jobs done on here. I don't see anything more wrong with sharing them than I would a home video of my family traveling, if I thought anyone would be interested. Personally, from a solo hunting perspective I feel it's too much trouble to try to set up and run by myself but there's times I would have loved to have video to see what I did wrong or see "the one that got away."
On another note, I would feel that your poems you post are of a much more personal nature than a video, but you enjoy posting those don't you? Maybe you're letting the negative actions of others dictate what you allow yourself to enjoy? Just a thought.
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It would be a shame to have a record of truth that might contradict a story that gets better with age! I've never videoed a kill, but I did take video of a number of fox and deer I saw from my stand this year. Fact is, a couple of yearling bucks might not have made it through the season if my hands hadn't been occupied by a camera!
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Interesting question, and one that had me tempted to make a reflex post in response. But this is a multifaceted question, and not nearly as simple as it sounds at first. I'm gonna have to think about this one for a bit.
Chuck, that was an insight that I was starting to get a glimpse of, then all of a sudden there you were putting it to words.
My gut reaction was that I would not do it. There is a fuzzy line, hard to see, between preserving (sacred, to me) memories and a snuff film. Those are the two extremes, and there is a very wide, blurry no-man's-land in between 'em. One man's sacred is not another's, and there are as many attitudes toward hunting, held by hunters, as there are hunters.
I had to ask myself, what is the difference between filming the encounter and the resulting actions, and the posing of a dead creature to get its good side in your hero pic? One is in motion, and one is a still photo. The key, I think, is in the motivation behind those two.
I have filmed (handheld and poorly) places where I have sat with a bow or gun, or where I just happened to be on a glorious spring morning. I especially like to capture the background noises of water, critters, wind, leaves and nuts falling. I have a small point-and-shoot Canon with limited video capability. Not the kind of thing to set on a tripod and video a hunt with. I think I'll keep it that way.
This is the start of my thinking about this. I liked Primal Dreams, though I didn't listen to the talking, and another video that I watched with Mockingbird over the weekend, Traditional Harvests. But I don't have the urge to watch more of them. I guess I feel that the kill is to be private, and not for entertainment.
Buckmasters makes me harf. I just can't relate to any of it. Don't want to. Some folks might, and it will comfort them that these are just the ramblings of an old lady.
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TGMM Family Of The Bow Posts: 15035 | From: Fibber McGee's Closet, VA | Registered: Mar 2003
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I am not against videoing, but I am not really keen on giving up my hunt so that it CAN be video'd. I kinda like doing it alone, or with my one or two best bud's.
I am thinking that I have enough of a hassle getting close, much less with a second person hanging around. ChuckC
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I think it is fine to film your own hunts and show them to friends and even post them on here. Do I do it? No but would like too a time or two. I have people always asking to see even photos of stuff I have killed and I have very few. I have never been one to really care or worry about making records of any kind of my hunts, but also believe it is a personal thing and for guys that do it, more power to them. I am talking of personal stuff not the garbage ya see on DVD and TV. Shawn
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I agree. I have no interest in filming my hunts.
Dan
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Talondale, I have no supressed emotions that I'm trying to protect, or anything of an ethereal nature. My question was a simple one without want of change in my belief. Read that.."for me."
Sometimes we forget what the original question was, or didn't understand it the way it was meant. I love the old Bear Videos. I really like Primal Dreams....I did not say I dislike videos, and even mentioned that in my original post; please review. The original question is this: "Is there anyone else who would not video their hunt?" Please don't read anything more into that.
I personally wouldn't do it for my own reasons. Perhaps it's my reverence for the hunt itself as a personal event. Perhaps...well, I did already state these things.
I have found from some of you that I am not alone in this, and that makes me feel better. Not that I needed confirmation 8^). Thanks to all who answered my question.
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Interesting topic. I once filmed a whole hunting season. It was almost all gun hunting. I did not film any kills, but I did film scouting, stand placement, things I saw from the stand, and post-kill recovery, commentary. It was a lot of fun and I have shared that video with friends who seem to enjoy it. It is fun to watch it and remember the season.
I haven't done it since because it is frankly a pain to tote the camera around. I have been thinking about doing it again though as a way to document the hunting that I am doing with my dad and my son. I am not sure that I would film the kill shots, but I don't know that I wouldshy away from it either.
I found the Fred Bear reference interesting. While Fred's videos were extremely well done. they were definately designed to market and sell bear bows.
Like most of you, I hate the grandstanding and hooping/hollering that accompany most hunting videos on the market. In my opinion, virtually every video maker in the business today made more enjoyable videos when they were just getting started and hunting in their neighboring woodlots.
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