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I too payed attention to Gene Wensel watching him coat his shafts with the tire protectant gel...
If Gene believes this aids in penetration I would tend to agree. Look at his bowhunting den. The evidence is hanging on the walls... LOL
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I don't like the idea of putting a lube Armarol, WD 40 or any thing like it through my meat..but for those outdoor butts whatever works.Just me.
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The Sailkote Idea is very intriguing for several reasons.
First, its dry-so its doesn't pick up dirt, debris, and likely has less odor
second, it permanently bonds to the applied surface, making it very durable to repeated use and seemingly (to my feeble mind) not more toxic than the permanent lacquers on wood or finishes on carbon. They actually claim that "it will not transfer" from the original surface to another.
third (possibly most importantly) its hydrophobic (sorry mo. huntin), so blood and other wet slimy stuff that it comes in contact to is actually repelled, making the slick lubricating value that much more effective. A blood suffuse environment wouldn't even slow it down in theory!
Fourth, its simple to apply, no bake-on rubbing or buffing. just spray evenly and let dry (which happens 'quickly').
finally, on the website, they make the claim , "Sailkote is typically five times as effective, and lasts much longer than, wax, oil or Teflon® based lubricants."
I see no reason not to give her a go.
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Like Jeff and John I use the tire cleaner as recommend by Gene. When it has dried and been buffed out there isn't much difference in its composition then paste wax and other finishes commonly used on arrows, except it is a lot slicker.
The Sailcote sound like it might work even better, I will give it a try some time.
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quote:Originally posted by Boom Stick: It's illegal to "add chemicals" to arrows in some states. Ky for one.
That law is meant to prevent people from using chemical "pods" to aid in killing an animal faster by the use of toxins applied to the broadhead of an arrow, not to prevent hunters from lubricating their arrows to aid in penetration.
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I'll stick with blood. One point to consider- one of my hunting buddies lubricates his, and complains that the blood from the hit doesn't stick to his arrows, making it harder to tell the nature of the hit by the blood evidence.
I use fat arrows without lubricant, and none of the deer have noticed. My Superceders were made up to 25/64 in the untapered center section, but passthroughs are the norm when the arrow is properly tuned and the broadhead is truly sharp. When Tom Jeffrey (Owen's son) was using them, he killed more than a dozen deer and hogs from the first dozen Dan sent him, and he still had 6 left when I talked to him later. He said he only lost an arrow if it stayed in the animal and it got rolled on. The majority were passthroughs. I never had a single complaint on penetration from a few thousand customers. Good enough for me!
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I'll post some pics of my lubricated arrows later after they have gone through deer and African game - they are all very covered in blood!
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quote:Originally posted by Kingwouldbe: I agree, the Sailkote sounds like the stuff, you could use it on your shaft, arrow rest, your tab or glove.
I think I'll look into this. Thanks for the replies everyone!
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Here's a couple. As you can see, plenty of blood left on the shafts. And with complete pass throughs (warthog and nyala) and Woodsman BH, the blood trails were massive.
-------------------- Jeff Give me oysters and beer, for dinner every day of the year and I'll feel fine – Jimmy Buffett Posts: 261 | From: Hershey, PA | Registered: Jan 2005
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quote:Originally posted by Boom Stick: It's illegal to "add chemicals" to arrows in some states. Ky for one.
That law is meant to prevent people from using chemical "pods" to aid in killing an animal faster by the use of toxins applied to the broadhead of an arrow, not to prevent hunters from lubricating their arrows to aid in penetration.
To quote Ky Department of Fish and Wildlife
Illegal
"A deer hunter shall not use or possess while deer hunting:
• A broadhead smaller than 7/8” wide
• A barbed broadhead
• A chemically-treated arrow
•An arrow with a chemical attachment"
I am no lawyer but if you treat an arrow with chemicals, it's a chemically-treated arrow is it not?
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Brad, If you take that literally, as you’re implying a game warden would, then anything except a raw, unsealed wooden arrow would be illegal. That would include every carbon and aluminum arrow ever produced. To my knowledge, no fish and Game department in any state has prosecuted anybody for sealing wooden arrows or using aluminum or carbon arrows: Don’t think any of them will start in the foreseeable future either.
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