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Unwaxed Dental floss, tight and smooth. Finish with a nail knot. If you have wrapped guides on a rod, you have used a nail knot. It can be done by using a loop in a string, or a small 1-2" spray tube from a can of WD40. Run 6-8 rounds over the tube then feed the end of the Dental Floss thru, pull out the tube and tighten. Then use head cement for tying flys.
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Rob, that second noc is the best looking I've seen could you describe in more detail how you tie it? A tutorial would be great also.
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I was shown a different way to tie on a nock. It is much the same as tying on your serving. I was using diamond back .030, but recently tried B-50 and it is also working well with a little less bulk. Start with about a 12" strand of well waxed serving and put a bight in it. Lay the strand on your well waxed string with the loop centered on the string (it can point up or down). Take one tag end and start to wind around your string from the base of the loop towards the top. Make the wraps tight and even. The First wrap locates the nock on the string so set it as best you can. I keep wrapping till I get about 5/16" or so total wrap. Put that tag end through the loop and hang on to it. Pull the other tag end to pull the loop and the first tag end into the wrap. I pull hard on each end to keep things tight and pull the loop to the center of the wrap. Pull the tag ends taught and snip off with a razor. Carefully and quickly burn in the ends with a match. I never tried glue and that could be a good idea but I've never had a nock fail or slip on me. Hope this makes sense. Much harder to explain than to do. Once you get into tie on nocks, you'll never go back to brass. Dave
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I love the durability of the brass nocks but like the concept of the tie on nock set. If I can tie it where it is more durable I will be a happy camper. I like for everything I hunt with to be tough.
Thanks Jack
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I never have liked the brass ones and have just started shooting three under...then I read a post that Ken Beck told somebody to try two nocks - for three under.
Maybe we could get some video links to these ideas....great to see how it's done actually.
You can do it......please
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The brass nock sets seem to cut my finger tab so I usually tie the nocking point. I use extra of whatever I served the string with. I never use glue. I start with a square knot and tie a series of overhand knots then I go back down over the top the same way with a second layer for added thickness. I finish with a square knot on both sides of the string. In place of glue, I burn the tag ends and quickly wipe the melted ends onto the bundle to seal the knot. The whole deal is roughly the same size of a brass nock set. It never slips--in fact the only problem is that it is tied so tightly that I can't adjust it up or down very easily if at all.
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Good thread, I also do the same as Allen. No problems. Next time I'll try waxing it ahead of time and see how it works. But Robs nock sure is Purdy!
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Yeah Rob, How did ya get that So Purty?? Mine dont Look ANYTHING Like That. They end up Looking like a Ball of String, which....I guess thats what they are.
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this is a whipped nock point (not a knot) using large diameter .025" bcy #62 braid black/white serving. the actual center serving is .019" bcy halo.
use unwaxed thread (center serving type) and never any waxed thread (bowstring fiber or dental floss) as the wax inhibits the capillary flow of the binding agent (quality model shop thin cya such as 'hot stuff').
serve the nocking point with just a few turns, whipping the tag end back under the nock serving. pull the tag end *tight* and leave it hanging. liberally saturate with water thin cya. when the cya has cured, use a razor blade/knife to trim off the hardened tag end. give the entire nock point one more light coat of cya.
the result is a hard and ultra light nock point that will last the life of the string and not harm your leather glove or tab.
note: this type of nock point can't be moved, it's permanent. it can be removed by cutting off with a razor blade/knife. use knots instead of serving if you need to move the nock point.
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when making a movable knotted nock pointm make sure to *liberally" wax (rub it in good) the center serving in the area of the nock point - this will help keep the cya from bonding the nock point to the serving,
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Lately I have started using braided fly line backing material. It is florescent yellow. I whip tie it much like Rob described, melt the tag ends, add the CA glue, and don't have to do it again until I put on a new string.
I have also gone to using two nock points even shooting split. I think I get more consistent arrow flight because the nock can't slip even a little bit.
quote:Originally posted by straitera: B-50 stretchs. What's your take on tied string nocks on B-50 strings?
i use waxed dacron for knotted nock points, liberally doused with thin cya. go back a page and see the image.
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They end up Looking like a Ball of String, ![[banghead]](graemlins/banghead.gif)
which....I guess thats what they are. ![[goldtooth]](graemlins/xxdsmile.gif)
