"too many people live under the misguided impression that death is the worst possible of natural events" -John G. Mitchell, "The Hunt" Posts: 442 | From: Greenville, North carolina | Registered: May 2009
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7 years ago, I was huntin hogs and came home with a tick between my shoulder blades. Found it the next morning. A few days later, I was being admitted to the hospital with rocky mountain spotted fever.
I'm a lot more careful now. I use Coulston's Duranon tick spray. I buy it by the case! I also like to pour a cup or so of Apple Cider Vinegar into my camelbak bladder while I'm out in the woods for extended periods.
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apple cider vinegar works to keep ticks and skeeters off. its natural and cheap. its also a natural diaretic, so watch how much you drink. eastern nc is loaded with ticks. you cant do anything in the woods without contact with them. ive pulled them off of me in the dead of winter . what is surprising about that is it was less than 35 degrees outside, they just move slower
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I don't know how safe it really is and I've never tried it myself, but I've heard of using a dog tick collar around the outside of each pant leg/boot top (not on the bare skin, of course).
To remove ticks, the Tick Key really works great for me: http://www.tickkey.com/ I always carry one when I'm in the woods.
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Scott S,I have done that and I cut a 2" piece and put it on my boot years ago.I can't remember if it worked.And they do have a little smell to them.I will sat you should not put the frontline or any other liquid dog insect repellents on you skin at all.Or your clothes for that matter
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For Frontline you need your master to start on your head just above your ears and then carefully run down the middle of the back making sure that it gets thru the fur and onto the skin. Do not allow anyone to pet you until it has thoroughly dried. Additional spray may be needed for lower legs and long hairy ears.
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frontline and flea/tick collars are quite toxic. why else would the frontline company tell you not to let it touch YOUR skin, but DO put it on your dog's skin where they can't lick it.
so, put a toxic dog collar on my body? um, no thanx, i'll pass on that. i won't do that to my dogs, either.
canines are easy to diagnose and treat for lyme disease. doxycycline kills it off in a week or less.
tick heritage is millions of years old and haven't evolved much, if at all. at least humans have evolved for the better. so you'd think we smart humans would have the smarts by now for eliminating tick bite infectious borrelia. doh.
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Rob there is no money in a cure,they make more by treating it!
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quote:Originally posted by lpcjon2: Rob there is no money in a cure,they make more by treating it!
absolutely correct - and just one more reason the usa and the rest of the blue planet is going to h3ll in a hand basket.
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. He was surprised to feel them running wind sprints in his underwear on his drive home.
That sent chills up my spine, I hate ticks!!!
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I must just be lucky, been bitten hundreds of times over the years & never had Lyme. Everyone I know has had it. We get over run here in NY. Two of my beagles had it & one had airliciosis. Both really sick & had a month of meds. I ran them last week & despite the k9-advantix still pulled ticks off them. Mike
-------------------- Big Mike Posts: 303 | From: Wingdale, NY | Registered: Jul 2006
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I've posted this before, but here it is again...
Everyone who spends time in the woods (or the garden, park or anywhere else) would do well to check the CDCs website on Lyme Disease and check out the link to 'other tick borne diseases' as well. Ticks aren't the only problems either.
Lyme disease is caused by a specific bacteria that can be carried by blacklegged ticks. These ticks are in their highest concentrations where the most cases are reported, but can be found in nearly all of the US. The rest of the country has other types of ticks that carry different bacteria that cause a bunch of other nasty problems.
Not every tick carries the bacteria and not every bite results in an infection. Though Lyme Disease is caused by a specific type of bateria, there are a number of different strains, each with it's own little quirks (same with E.coli outbreaks too... ever wonder how the CDC tracks down where the E.coli originated from? Each strain is slightly different genetically).
The damn bloodsuckers can carry a bunch of other little 'bugs' that can cause serious problems and present many of the same symptoms as Lyme Disease.
A blood test is only reliable in the later stages of an infection, and by then your chances of comlications goes up.
As Rob unfortunately has found out, some people have problems for years after the bacterial infection has cleared up. The exact cause is unknown, but the chances of it happening go up dramatically the longer you have the infection! Antibiotics are the best way to get rid of a bacterial infection quickly. Your body can do it alone - and does on a daily basis - but when something comes along that really challenges it (and this bug does) your immune system starts to act a little funny. There's credible data that suggests the lingering effects are autoimmune in nature.
When your body has a bad infection (like the late stages of Lyme disease) your immune system is really cranking, trying to find some antigen it can make antibodies against so it can fight the infection. Unfortunately, when your immune system is stressed that bad, it starts making mistakes, and can start making antibodies against things that aren't a problem, or worst case, part of your own body.
After that response has died down the cells that caused the problem don't go away. They are there waiting to see something they recognize so they can start the process all over again. Allergies work the same way (this is also the basis for how vaccines work). These cells can stick around for years or even a lifetime.
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Wow, this brings back some bad memories. In the 70s, when I was in western KY attending Murray State University, I spent quite a bit of time at nearby Land Between the Lakes, AKA, "The Lonestar Tick Capital of the World"! You might walk around in the woods all day at LBL without one tick attaching itself, then POW, what seemed like thousands of the little buggers would be crawling all over you!! The "seed ticks", in reality, were larval stage Lonestars, which could be identified from the tiny star like markings on their backs. As I recall, the original "Permanone" (permethrin product) was developed specifically for use by workers/loggers in the LBL area due to the heavy number of Lonestars. As I said, LBL was (and IS) known for it's ticks. It's use was originally limited to just a few states. For the last few decades I've pre-treated my clothes with permethrin during spring turkey season and also in the fall until we get a killing frost. Wear rubber gloves and an carbon filter mask when spraying and watch where the over spray drifts. Make certain that waistlines, cuffs, and zippered openings get special coverage! Allow your sprayed outer garmants 2-4 hours to dry and then BAG them until you're ready to put to use. This helps extend the effectiveness of the treatment.I also wear elastiv bands around the tops of my boots to seal my pant cuffs.
-------------------- Gary Logsdon Posts: 1581 | From: Kentucky | Registered: Aug 2006
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I was born and raised in Florida. We had a sulphur water well. Even though we got bugs-chiggers, ticks, etc-we really noticed a difference when we went on vacation, and were away from the sulphur water. When we came back home, the bugs tore us up for about a week. When we had the sulphur back in our system, things were better. My grandfather always dusted his pant legs cuffs with sulphur powder.
My wife has lymes right now. She has an appointment with the infectous disease specialist tomorrow-her first. She doesn't hunt, doesn't wander in the woods, we don't have high grass, our dogs don't go in the woods, nor do our horses. I figure she either got a tick off of me, or from the buck I killed, when she was admiring him. Hopefully, we caught it early enough.
I've been lucky so far-KNOCK ON WOOD!!!! I use Sawyers or Permanone religiously, especially from March through November. I spray my bare skin with Deep Woods Off, put on my socks and spray them,, then put on my hunting clothes treated with a permethrin
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