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Just wanted to throw in some praise where its due. Ordered some terminators from Bob, they got here real quick and he answered fast when I emailed a question, GREAT service.
The Terminators are AWESOME. Anyone mulling this purchase over should pull the trigger, IMO. I'll give updates later during the season, the build quality is exceptional.
But, the thing that impresses me most to this point is how easy they are to sharpen! Compared to anything else I've tried, and it seems like I try a new head or two every year, these are ridiculous. Out of the box razor sharp in less than a minute and a half. The factory established bevel is already close to sharp, and perfect for taking a diamond across two blades at a time with light pressure, then strop on some leather or cardboard. VIOLA! deadly sharp. And they fly very well too, with no noise. MY snuffers are deafening comparatively. The tip is cut perfect, and they all spin true first time. Love em. I hope they do me as well on my elk tags this year as they have in the shop and back yard. No joke, I could see this being the ultimate North American hunting head. Anyway, I am thoroughly impressed to say the least! My search may be over. we'll see how dead they kill my elk this year.
PS, they look like a ready to kill stealth bomber on the end of my arrows. Make me shiver just thinking about em.
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Well I just received some non-vented Woodsman Elite 160 gn. I am assuming they are the same head because I heard they were identical to the VPA Terms. Made by VPA??? Anyway if they are the same then I agree with you Elk breath. They are precicely ground and look fabulous. I'm pretty psyched about them although this year is the year of the single bevel 160 gn Grizzly head for me and hopefully a nice shot on a Bull with them (dang those single bevels get rediculous sharp). Wouldnt hesitate to shoot the VPA/Elites one bit however.
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Great guy, super bowyer, hunter, he is on the cutting edge of bow development - I agree with all that. Just don't let him touch your computer. He might break it!
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TGMM Family of the Bow Posts: 4010 | From: Lenexa, Ks | Registered: Jul 2003
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Randy You are correct in that VPA makes the "Woodsman Elite" however, there are some differances.. Primarily that the Terminator is a "solid" head without the vents in the blades.. A very "solid and quiet" design !! I think you would have to try really hard to get one to whistle in flight.
I did see a pic. and post sometime back here on TG of a "Woodsman Elite" [ with vented blades ] that blew thru a target and hit a pile of wood behind.... It sort of "Blew up" leaving only the tip embedded in the piece of wood and the ferrell attached to the shaft... I think the comment was made, that the vented blades totally seperated and the he may have eventually found a couple of them...
As a result, I contacted my "Favorite Girl" Barb Morrion and had her send me what I was after.. and they got here really quick, [and at a better price than I could find them anywhere else].
I chose the "Solid" VPA's for my spring black bear hunt in AK.. I was using the 1 1/4" wide "Proto-type" 250's mounted on my GT 5575's.
I made a bad hit, too far back, resulting in a liver hit on a nice boar...The arrow blew on thru and landed on top of the beach grass about 15 ft from where the bear was standing at the hit. [Still sharp enough to shoot again if necessary ]
The resulting blood trail was the only reason I was able to recover him after a 400+ yard trail thru some fairly dense cover....
Best head I have ever used!! and this comming from guy who has been using 2 blade single bevels for some time now.. I feel it made the differance between recovery or loss of my bear.
Gene
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PBS Associate Member Traditional Bowhunters of WA. Posts: 2493 | From: La Center, Wash. | Registered: Feb 2007
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Cool, thanks Gene. I do have the NON-Vented Elites. I think I remember reading your bear story too. Posts: 1732 | From: montana | Registered: Jan 2004
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well I tried, but I just dont understand french. So, could we get the conclusions in english? 8-)
the polite thing to do would be to learn french...
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I will be shooting the 175gr Woodsman Elite this season. It seems to be a very solid BH and I think they fly better than my 150gr Snuffers. Either way, I hope to give some lethal feedback this year!
-------------------- "TGMM" Family of the Bow. "The bowman, to be successful as a hunter, must learn to perfection the habits of his game." -- Maurice Thompson, The Witchery of Archery, 1879 Posts: 5272 | From: Albany, Oregon | Registered: Nov 2005
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quote:Originally posted by elkbreath: well I tried, but I just dont understand french. So, could we get the conclusions in english? 8-)
the polite thing to do would be to learn french...
you can't be wrong with this BH...shot in 300gr with a compound, they are accurate enough for grouping 3 arrows in a coin at 40 meters...easy to sharpen if you use the good way and rock solid whatever the situation...one of the best 3 blades BH I have tested...
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