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Personally, I can't afford to bait, and don't think I would enjoy it as much as trying to hunt more natural food sources and travel routes. Also, I was curious of everybody's opinions on the definition of bait. Should a high nutrient food plot be considered bait? How about a mineral lick? What about an apple tree planted for hunting?
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quote:Originally posted by Gen273: Here are some questions I have. Is a white oak tree dropping a ton of acorns bait? What about hunting the edge of a corn or soybean field? How about hunting over an apple or persimmon tree? I have hunted places where baiting is legal and places where it is illegal, and have killed deer and other critters under both circumstances. I am certain that all of this “my way is better than yours” attitude is detrimental to our passion of hunting. If it is legal and it suits you I have no problem with how or with what you kill them; like I said as long as it is legal. I don’t have to agree with you to be friends with you; that is my take on a lot of the ethics hogwash. I feel we need to band together as hunters regardless of the way we hunt or even with what weapon we use to hunt. The liberals are trying to end hunting by pricing us avg-Joes out of the game. All I am saying is let’s stick together and support one another even if their way is not our way. I am for any kind of hunting under any circumstances as long as it is legal, even though that are some things I would not do myself.
You are absolutely correct we need to stick together as hunters. I'm not looking to say my way is better than yours or start trouble I just want to know peoples thoughts behind their reasoning. And by the way the answer to you question is no acorns are a natural food source that deer have to forage for. Oaks are a dime a dozen in my neck of the woods.
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I have seen that after feeders with corn for deer were put on the land I hunt a lot of animals have taken advantage of, javelinas, coyotes, doves, quail, racoons, and I like to see a lot of animals while hunting.
now I dont like to "guard" the feeder and prefer to hunt on their travel routes.
Don't see why it should not be legal
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i love to bait deer for my 2 boys to hunt. I gives them an opportunity to see deer everytime they go out and usually see alot of deer. It keeps them interisted.
I like hunting the lay of the land myself, I seem to kill more bucks that way, but I would be disappointed if I could not bait deer for my boys to hunt.
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Baiting deer is not a slam dunk, as many seem to think or imply. If you screw up the first time you may not see a second time.
Baiting in my state of NH is legal and we do it on the land we own. We do it for several reasons. Not too many years ago it was logged and there are currently no mast or apple trees or even grapes growing on it. We are trying to change that. There is a fellow on the adjacent property to our NW that bait's like crazy even though he is set up in a stand of oaks. To our SE we have a fellow who has a food plot as well as feeders set out. So, if we are to see deer, and even have a hope of shooting one, we feed them. We start in the Spring with Trophy Rocks (they just finished the third one on my wife's stand). Then towards the middle of the summer we add a bit of corn and do so throughout the season and supplement with apples when we can get them. The deer typically come in to the bait areas much more cautiously than they do to other more natural food sources and they seem to be adept at picking out tree stands as there are any number of t hem in the area from which they are shot at from. Once you get busted at a bait site, those particular deer become very skittish and either go nocturnal, early morning or take anywhere from 30 minutes to an hour once you see them coming before they commit to the site. Even then, as many of you know, getting the deer you want to pose in the perfect position for a shot may never happen even when they do come in. My wife and i have a meeting spot. If one of us is late getting there we will work our way over to the other's stand because being late or not being at the meeting spot means one of us is "trapped" in our stand by deer we can't shoot for one reason or the other. That way, the person on the ground gets the attention and the deer are none the wiser for the person being in a tree stand. Baiting is not for everyone nor is it my preference. But for us to have a place to ourselves to hunt without pressure from others, and the fact that we have no reasonable natural food supplies to set up on or trails to and from, we find baiting to be a reasonable thing to do.
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Never thought about it since up here it isn't leagal to bait, you are not even alowed to hunt bear on your own kill site, moose gut pile for example!! Tought question, I guess if it is leagal go for it, as long as you feel good about it.
My dad put mineral licks on his hunting ground for moose and he doesn't get more mooses than me!!
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Bill Carlsen explained my situation perfectly. We have few deer and baiting is legal. Adjoining land owners bait, so if I don't I won't see much and will likely have another year of a freezer with a loud echo. The only thing I can do other than bait myself is attempt to intercept them on their way to the other guy's bait....which amounts to the same thing. I prefer to hunt trails leading to my own bait site if possible.
-------------------- Happier than a pig eating strawberries Posts: 159 | From: Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario Canada | Registered: Oct 2003
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Legal for Deer and Elk here in WA. Illegal for Bear and Birds. I have never "baited" deer or elk, but I love people who do. It tells me where not to hunt ( on the bait ) and where to hunt, around the baits. I hunt travel trails to and from the baiting area early and late. I use others baits along with terrain, and everything else I know to get on animals without messing up others hunts or baiting area.
-------------------- Clay Walker Skill is not born into anyone. It is earned thru hard work and perseverance. Posts: 3246 | From: Vancouver, WA. | Registered: May 2009
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I used to bait, but that was too much work, then I went to just shooting deer targets, still too much work, then I went to shooting little pictures of deer with a gun. so much to do reload gun, hang pictures etc. etc. Then I found this computer game, but it is too hard. It is a nice day for hunting, so I think I will open the shades and watch TV. Just kidding, I think it takes away from the challenge of hunting, too much and can create unnatural patterns for the baited animal. It goes against my leave no trace outdoors ethic.
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I prefer to learn the animals habits and read sign, then set up on them. Spot and stalk is my favorite way of hunting.
Baiting is illegal in Wyoming, and I'm glad.
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"another world" "the young and restless" "the edge of night" don't want to miss my stories, but oh oh what if I miss opra and ellen and dr. Phlipped in the head, must take a nap and think about it. No wait, I know where the turkeys are roosting, gotta go, take care guys.
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I do not mind baiting at all. What gigs me is when people who tote "I oppose baiting deer because I do not approve of it" or "it is beneath my ethics" ideas - pooching their chests out telling me this are the same folks who will go sit over a 55 gallon drum for a bear or a feeder for hogs and have no issue shooting that bear or hog over the feeder/drum? baiting is baiting - for a proper poll, or ethics for that matter, you cannot distinguish game animal. Your poll do as you wish. But what I mean is - if you are against baiting a deer please do not rationalize the bear or hog shot over bait.
I think if you make it illegal, or personally ban yourself from the practice then do it for all game animals you will hunt as they deserve the same effort put forth in a hunt to be killed or yourself sent home empty handed.
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On the next note this is the first yr I have personally put forth an effort to bait - I have an area where it is legal. Deer do not move to it in daylight hours just as they do not move once the dogs start pushing them.
I am finding that I like to hunt to many different areas and I like to move too much! So baiting really is not my personal style though I have nothing against its proper use.
My .02
Jason
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