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When I tiller Hill blanks, I use a tiller board, then when it is close I shoot them for feel. I want the limb timing to get to a point where the bow naturally stands dead still on the release. it comes down to using nothing more than sandpaper to get the timing feel just right. when all this is done and I got it right, I have a plywood sheet with nails on a line. I line up the string to my exact marks and trace the limbs from fade out to where it meets the string. If everything thing is right the bottom limb will be 1&1/4" or 1&1/2", depending on the bow, shorter and 1/8th closer to the string than the top limb. I will end up with a perfectly shaped 1/8th inch to a point gull wing tracing. If it bulges or the lines cross the bow will not shoot right for me. With every longbow, either tillered my me or others, that I have checked this way, if they shoot right, I get that perfect gull wing.
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Pavan please help me get the mental picture of this.
"a perfectly shaped 1/8th inch to a point gull wing tracing"
My brain apparently doesn't work like a lot of other folks and converts almost all information into word pictures that I either understand or don't and in this case it's a "don't"..lol
It's the 1/8th that's throwing me.
In fact I can't even get a picture. My dense!!
Thanks in advance!
God bless,Mudd
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I should have pointed out that the bow gets flipped so the lines are along side each other and that bows designed and tillered for three under the lines will be of equal length and on top of each other. the 1/8th to 3/16th inch is the tiller measurement from the string to the belly of the braced bow at the end of the fade out. the lower limb is one eighth inch less than the top limb. Pm sent Mudward, I have the same problem, the old Madcow shows itself every time my wife starts telling me things.
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Yep, three or four arrows on the string at the same time. The bow doesn't mind the foot shot at all, but Howard did it much better than me. And yes, it was a pointy football, but I can't remember if it was for rugby or AFL. We don't call them footballs if they're round; we call them soccer balls.
Cheers,
Ben
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OK, Pavan, now I am really puzzled about this timing business - and, yes, I'm like Mudd, I can't seem to get a picture of what you are talking about. Could I please get some clarification, too. Thanks
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Looks like we need a series of pix of the actual process...
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I have also a question. Craig offers his bows in different length; i.e. a bow for 50#@26" in length from 62" to 68". How is it done that these bows have their best performance @ 26"? Does it depend only on tillering or have the tapers to be different?
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quote:Originally posted by tg2nd: I have also a question. Craig offers his bows in different length; i.e. a bow for 50#@26" in length from 62" to 68". How is it done that these bows have their best performance @ 26"? Does it depend only on tillering or have the tapers to be different?
unlike hybrid r/d longbows american flatbows with backset, straight or bellyset limbs need length to perform smoothly and stably.
my basic recommendations for the *minimum* hill longbow length for a given shooter's draw length - longer is better for smoothness of draw ...
tillering is always an issue, based on the above criteria and the shooter's string grip and form.
ymmv.
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I have found these length to draw rules to be true and most of my Hill collection match this However I have found no noticeable shooting difference between short or long bows except smooooothness Of the draw. my comparison is a 70" 60@28 halfbreed with 3 Lams of bamboo and a 60" 61@28 reverse handle 3 lams of bamboo this is my go to hunting bow deadly accurate bow, very fast Steve
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quote:Originally posted by tg2nd: I have also a question. Craig offers his bows in different length; i.e. a bow for 50#@26" in length from 62" to 68". How is it done that these bows have their best performance @ 26"? Does it depend only on tillering or have the tapers to be different?
unlike hybrid r/d longbows american flatbows with backset, straight or bellyset limbs need length to perform smoothly and stably.
my basic recommendations for the *minimum* hill longbow length for a given shooter's draw length - longer is better for smoothness of draw ...
tillering is always an issue, based on the above criteria and the shooter's string grip and form.
ymmv.
Rob, I think you misunderstood my question. It wasn't about bowlength to drawlength, but about how it is done that bows of different length perform best at a given drawlength i.e 26".
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quote:Originally posted by falconview: I have found these length to draw rules to be true and most of my Hill collection match this However I have found no noticeable shooting difference between short or long bows except smooooothness Of the draw. my comparison is a 70" 60@28 halfbreed with 3 Lams of bamboo and a 60" 61@28 reverse handle 3 lams of bamboo this is my go to hunting bow deadly accurate bow, very fast Steve
This is what I meant! 2 bows, one 70", the other 60", both are tillerd/perform best @28" drawlength. How is this done?
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