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tg2nd
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Nate,
thanks a lot!
Very good insight!

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Nate Steen .
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I guess the 'swing' can be thought of as the 'jump start' to the shot, even if it's only 2 inches.....like the windup to the pitch, the forward press to the golf swing, the back-cast to the forward cast
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tadpole
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Thanks Nate, great post! The fluid nonstop swing is what I am really trying to master. I have a problem of wanting to stop at anchor and right now I loose a little bit of accuracy if I don't stop or at least slow down.
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Nate Steen .
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Tadpole....instinctive shooting accuracy comes from repeating good form and technique. It isn't magic. We are all blessed with hand eye coordination. What is confusing to the mind and a detriment to instinctive accuracy is double-guessing yourself and going back to an aiming/static process.

for example....when someone learns to drive a car, the first lessons are packed with too much information and it's difficult to remember to use your feet, hands, ears, eyes, and brain all at the same time and keep the car between the lines... so you start slowly. As you learn how to clutch, brake, steer, shift, etc, you are not conentrating so much on focusing on the area between the lines, but you see them and keep the car between them by hand-eye coordination. After a couple of months, you can drive smoothly, switching between lanes and cars at full speed in rush hour traffic, downshifting, accelerating, etc all without very much conscious thought, and you still aren't 'picking a spot' between the lines to aim your car. How do you do it then? our minds in conscious and subconscious forms direct our movements Extremely Well everyday if we just let it happen. We can aim a bow the same way....but we have been told by writers and 'experts' seeking new material to talk about that you need to 'aim' with a static style to be accurate.

In my opinion, it is much easier to shoot a longbow using the same instinctive FLUID, DYNAMIC motions that I use everyday to perform everything I need to do. sometimes that fluid dynamic motion is a little slower, sometimes a little faster, but it is never static. If you drive a car in the same static mindset that you shoot an arrow, you will get run over.

the key to shooting this way is to give it enough time to be proficient. It doesn't happen overnight. remember how many hours it took learning to drive a car. How many hours it took with your dad and playmates learning how to throw a ball. We add stress to our longbow shooting lives by mandating our speed of accuracy level. Each one of us is different, learning speeds will differ.

All this helps if you shoot one bow during this process. We get different bows and they all will shoot slightly different and that slows down our learning curve.

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Nate is correct. If you get a chance to read Horace Ford in the Archery library, he is clearly using the swing draw in his shooting.
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Here is a link to some shooting by Howard Hill, smooth and fluid. Howard is not to smooth when he falls in ontop of the gator gar! LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNHzLzfsf0U

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My new (to me) Hill Wild Boar arrived today. Great shooting and very, very quite:

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Ari
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I find the other thing stressed from this style besides a fluid shot is proper form, the straight back motion after the swing along with the motionless hands at release help to make sure the correct back tension is been used.
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Here`s some more eye candy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_uS-C7aRfE

Well, I got a JH bow, now it`s up to me....
[archer2]

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Ari
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It would be great to see the "Hit em" DVD back in production, it is an invaluable source of information.
We could get a coin for our bows or a t-shirt to wear, but I think the best way to pay our respect to these great shooters of old is to keep this video available and back in production, like it was made to be.

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Well put, no glass for me please.  -
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Swampthing, nice looking natural there. Miller? Schulz?

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Ari
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Jesse, I love that bow but if you keep posting pictures of it I'm gonna end up ordering one, and I really don't need another bow yet.

Got any pictures that show the concave/convex lamination's? [knothead]

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Must be a Miller. [Cool]

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Congratulations Ontario! Enjoy your new toy.

Swampthing...a natural beauty for sure! Quiet and deadly.

Nate, you're on a roll - keep it going.

Mudd, I remember....haha!

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