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wingnut
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one way to measure is to push the head through paper and draw a circle to the outside edge of the cuts. Then measure it.

Thats how we used to do it in Washington state.

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Shoot a bigger head and you won't have to spend another second worying about it. The difference in penetration between a sharp 1" three blade and a sharp 1 1/8" three blade couldn't be measuered. Now if you are already having penetration issues, then I'd think twice about 3 blades.

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I'm glad Missouri doesn't have any stupid laws like that, or at least none that I'm aware of?
I know there isn't a broadhead requirement.

Any warden that took one look at a 3-blade Woodsman or a 3-blade Snuffer should not have any doubts about it's killing ability, those broadheads or wicked! I use the 125gr. Snuffers myself.

However, you better find out for sure since your state has specific rules to govern them and some wardens may not give you a hard time, but it's the one that did would ruin your whole day.
Better to be legal and have the peace of mind to enjoy your hunting, than to be constantly looking over your shoulder all the time.

I am always a legal beagle so I never have to worry about it. I find it easier to relax and enjoy myself that way.

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Tree Rat and Wingnut are both correct, there is a difference in "cutting width" and "cutting diameter". You have to be sure how it is stated in your States Regs. Better to be safe than sorry, some Game Wardens ca be real P#@#ks, believe me I know. By the way, you can now use serrated bladed broadheads in Ontario....Lloyd
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Maryland law is 7/8th so send them here and they will be fine... [biglaugh] No just kidding you but I bet if they measure the hit area on any animal takin with one it will be bigger then the head itself...If the impact is slighty angled the hole will be more then 7/8 unless you shoot perfectly level...Just my 1 cent worth..Almost forgot to mention" Not all Wardens know what 7/8th of an inch is"....A close friend of mine is a retired officer and so was his brother in law who is friends with me and niether one knew the law when I told them about what our book requires... Heck my buddy the retired D.N.R. officer wanted to know why I don't hunt with a stone head and I said cause it's against the law here in Md... [knothead] [readit] I can understand that you want to obey the Law and want to do what's right ...I sometimes wonder just who makes up them laws?
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I can see a game warden making you shoot a bow to see how far it carries if you had dubious equipment with you like oversized feathers, crooked arrows, etc. You wouldn't believe what you see out in the field.

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Probablt go to five different wardens and recieve 7 different answers. I do not mean this in a bad way, it is just the interpretation that each will use or how they will test it.

Get a couple different answers and if it is in the law then yes they will check.

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I thought part of being an ethical hunter was being legal, not what you can do and not get caught at.. Shoot Snuffers, just as great a head and no question on cut size.

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A lot of these laws are out-of-date. Many have been eliminated and others go unenforced unless the hunter is confrontational or the officer "knows" he has broken a law but can't prove it. However, it is our duty as hunters to know the rules and make sure we follow them. Having written that, I'll make sure to check my favorite broadheads before venturing forth into another state this year.

I've had my license checked in Wyoming, Ontario, and Indiana. I've never had my equipment checked.

However, with the vast majority of these laws, we can blame our own (or our ancestors) for them. You can bet your bottom dollar some archery expert(s) was succcessful in getting his perception of ethical equipment written into the laws.

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7/8" that is a small game head in my book. Get a bigger one I shoot Simmons they work the best for me.LCH
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The usual measure is cutting diameter. An arrow that will pass through a 1" diameter ring is not 1" in diameter.

Easier to comply than worry, IMO.

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quote:
Originally posted by Cootling:
The usual measure is cutting diameter. An arrow that will pass through a 1" diameter ring is not 1" in diameter.

Easier to comply than worry, IMO.

id try that. sound simple answer. if not call ur local warden and arange to speack with him.

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I was told by a game protector that they shouldn't pass through a 7/8" diameter hole. If they did, they were illegal.
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It is interesting that if the rule was 1” wide, a two blade with 1” wide cut would be ok, but a three blade that was 7/8” cutting dia. with 1 5/8” of cut wouldn’t. You have to wonder some times about those who make this stuff up.

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I would draft a letter to the F&G Office with this question and then keep their response on file. Offer to bring in one of the broad heads if need be, but for sure describe it fully so there is no doubt about which one it is. I agree with the last couple of responses and be concerned about it, an honest mistake is still a mistake and you can get an answer to this question in black and white. Best of luck.
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