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Sharptop
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I have had the hardest time dialing in a bow I got earlier in the year and finally think I've narrowed it down to a few 1/8 inches in a particular arrow. Yet another bow with similar specs shot a variety of arrows, different stiffnesses and lengths. Both are 54" Shrew and Thunderchild.

I suspect I have a bad release and the bow that shoots everything is 6lbs pull heavier than the picky one. Could that be the reason?

Perturbed in Georgia......

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I will follow this one....have a bow that is driving me nuts!!!

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Rob DiStefano
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it's the nature of all three beasts - the bow, the arrow AND you. some matches were made in heaven - those are the bows and arrows we treasure. others were made for divorce court. [Big Grin]

as simple as the sticks and string appear to be, there is more to it all than meets the eye ...

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MarkE2006
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quote:
Originally posted by Rob DiStefano:
there is more to it all than meets the eye ...

Transformers...but seriously center shot of the bow has a lot to do with arrow and bow harmony.

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overall bow design, your style, arrow shelf, limb width.. I have alot of bows and have observed the same..a few are pretty finicky but most are pretty forgiving ...I like to hunt with the bows that seem to be the most forgiving...and speed is not in that factor..I see alot of people emphasizing fast bows...as long as the kinetic energy is there,,,and the bow is quiet..speed is not as important..I know that alot of people will argue with me but thats my opinion..
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The Whittler
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I think Rob summed it up quite well. I have found the longer you shoot the bow the more it will come around and will be a pleasure to shoot. Just give it time.
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It helps to have a lot of different shafts, points, and a chop saw can be handy. A full vocabulary may make you feel better. [biglaugh]
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B M A
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Rob DiStefano:
it's the nature of all three beasts - the bow, the arrow AND you. some matches were made in heaven - those are the bows and arrows we treasure. others were made for divorce court. [Big Grin]

as simple as the sticks and string appear to be, there is more to it all than meets the eye ...
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KentuckyTJ
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I think it mostly has to do with the way the shelf is cut.

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ishoot4thrills
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quote:
Originally posted by KentuckyTJ:
I think it mostly has to do with the way the shelf is cut.

That's what I was gonna say, Tom.

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kevgsp
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The easiest and most forgiving bow to tune is one with a flipper rest and plunger. [readit]
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Shelf, and tillering are what I've heard. It seems inconvenient, but having different arrows helps. Flipper rest and plunger makes some people upset...they don't consider it "traditional". I couldn't care less, whatever helps you get there...just don't try to come down to Texas and use it in a TBOT 3D shoot, they get real upset!
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habujohn
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Some bow materials like carbon limbs can be a bit more difficult. I like to play with many factors to get a bow to shoot the way I like it. This could be in the arrow spine, brace height, arrow shelf or plate. I have even found playing with different strings can make a difference. It is fun trying to figure it and it keeps me practicing even after 40 years of shooting.

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gonefishing600
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The more variables you put in to the equation, the more variations in performance you are going to get. If all bows in question where the same, then the variation would me minimal. Different limb materials have different cast. Different bow manufactures cut there risers different in relation to the center of the bow. Bow strings, are they all the same material and same number of strands ? All this will affect arrow flight, and paradox.

If one piece of the equation is different from one bow to the next, than you will have to change either the shaft length, or tip weight to compensate for that difference.

Just my opinion I could be wrong.

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kevgsp
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Ya, plungers have only been around for 50 years or so, I guess they are not traditional. LOL What was I thinking.

If I ever end up in texas I will stay clear of the Trad Police at the TBOT 3D shoot. (Dont tell them there is a division called RU for such un "trad" gizmos [scared] )

Sharptop, The bow that is closer to centershot will be more forgiving of arrow spine.

FWIW a 54" bow can be a little more tricky to come off the string cleanly.

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