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Kris
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Exactly!

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Totally agree with the theme here, but there is one exception to harming a selfbow.

And I do understand that sinew backed Owls are NOT your typical selfbow.

I have several sinew backed Owl's by Ed Scott and Ed told me that with the sinew backing, anyone can shoot them, regardless of draw. He even writes the weight @28" and out to 32". He guarantee's his sinew backed bows for life and I believe he told me he's never had to replace one. This is sinew backed only.

That's why, at Comptons, anyone can test shoot Ed's sinew backed bows as much as they like.

Anyhow, if anyone has a sinew backed Owl, use whatever caution you'd like, but Ed made it pretty clear that no harm will come to the bow.

Again, I realize this is the rare exception and not the case with 99% of the bows out there. I just want people to feel free to shoot an Owl if they ever see Ed Scott at a show.

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OR....
Just say No.
A person,does have that right.LOL

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The one I see a lot is when bows are for sale at a shoot, guys will try to man up and give them a super long draw like they are trying to prove how big they are. I had a case where I yelled a serious warning at a fellow that grabbed my wife's custom short draw bow. I watched him shoot earlier and he had a serious short draw flinch, but when drawing bows back he stood up straight and stretched them as far as he could. Him and his buddies almost went against my orders to put it back like I had no right to tell them what to do, when someone else told them they were out of line by handling bows on the private bow rack, they grudgingly put it back. If they would have jerked that bow back and damaged it, I would have broken the law. Anyone can pretend to be the big man when drawing back a light bow. One fellow let me shoot his bow, a Miller, but my draw was the same as his and I used his arrows, my arrows were actually shorter than his.

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I had a Joe Mattingly self bow named "The 2 Holer" that I made the mistake of handing to a gent to hold while I got some arrows out of my truck.

I turned around just in time to see him pull it back to the point one tip rolled over and split down into the top hole.

I never dreamed that someone would just yank a bow back.

My heart sank as I knew it was going to be impossible to replace.

Joe did survive his brain cancer long enough to redo the bow making it a one holer but much shorter.

I could've kicked myself for letting anyone touch a bow that was made specifically for me and my right handed draw.

It's never happened again, nor will it ever.

God bless,Mudd

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This is a great thread. I think many people just do not know better. It is up to the bow owner to instruct the inspector( my opinion) how to handle it. Also I do have an Owl bow, they are pretty bullet proof, but I am still careful about just handing it over. Lastly, people like to pic at the snake skins... not sure why they do that?

Mudd, what a shame what happened to your bow. A bow like that would be impossible to replace.


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Eric, I hope you are OK with this. It is self bow related.

Hey Mudd, I have an osage stave with some black marks on it that mean a lot to me. One day before Joe got sick I took that stave and met him in the parking lot at DFW airport where he worked as an engineer. Joe took a marker and laid out handle, fades, tips, etc. on the stave and told me "go for it"! I have thought over the years if I ever got good enough at making bows I might make a bow out of that stave. But then those marks would be gone. Here in north TX there are lots of bodark trees that will make lots of staves. But none of them will have Joe's marks on them. I think I'm OK with keeping that stave just the way it is. I miss Joe.

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After reading this thread, I got motivated to go out and shoot my pig-nut. I must be a really good self bow maker, I need to remind myself every so often how good that bow shoots. And no, you can't shoot it.

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As most people to whom you hand a bow will not have read these posts, and it seems to be a natural tendency to want to draw a bow, it would probably be a good idea, as wingnut suggested, to unstring the bow before handing it to someone.

Or if you're in the process of shooting it when someone wants to look at it, I don't see anything disrespectful in asking them not to draw it, just like you would explain to a kid about not dry-firing it.

Of course, it would be better if everyone understood these things, but since they don't, preservation of your bow would seem to indicate the wisdom of saying something yourself.

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I also hand them off unstrung. I still have people pull on the string. Id hate to have a bow damaged by someones ignorance so i wont give them the chance to damage it. They can draw it back after ive got the details clear.

Good post. May help spread the word.

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Be careful of handing someone an unstrung selfbow as well, as they are likely to try to string it BACKWARDS and break it. Don't ask.

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We have probably reached the choir pretty well with this thread.

Even with my glass backed bows I'm careful of who I allow to hold it. Some people think it's normal to draw it all the way back and dry fire it. [scared]

I saw a guy hand his super short Kodiak Magnum to a guy at the range. The guy was about 6'-6" with arms like a gorilla. the bow made crackling noises when he suddenly pulled it back to full draw.

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i agree and would like to add that a guy/gal should seek permission to draw anyone's bow regardless of the type of bow it is. I mean my bows are very special to me and I dont want some yahoo screwing it up

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Good info - I've never drawn a guys bow or shot it without asking first. I know it's the first thing guys do as a compound shooter drew my recurve back when he asked to see it, I turned around and closed my eye's waiting for the dry fire sound, thank heavens he didn't.

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quote:
Originally posted by Jason R. Wesbrock:
Excellent advice, Eric. I never draw anyone else's bow (selfbow, glass, or otherwise) without asking first. To me, It's just common courtesy.

x2 Jason.

My hickory bow is tillered to my 27" draw. It's 48# at that draw, but it goes up to 53# at 28". I checked it just to be on the safe side. If it's stacking that much, that's too much stress! I'm guessing 29" would be disastrous. [banghead]

Thanks for bringing this up Eric. I just hope the non-self bow shooters read this too. They are the ones who really need to.

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