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Rob I have plenty of experience with Leon's bows and little with Dick's longbow so perhaps someone can fill in the gap. If you look at the unstrung profile of the primal it would look like one of Leon's bows referred to as Reflex Deflex bow, you will see the profile on his site. Good cast, moderate speed and good shooter with just a small thump on release, excellent cast.
If you are comparing it to Leon's LS Slammer you get into a much more agressive reflex deflex limb design, more speed, zero handshock, and a highly shootable bow. You will see the difference in limb design both strung and unstrung. The grip on Leon's longbows are "killer" for sure. Goodluck. tom
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Moots, I have shot the primal styk and really enjoyed it. As was stated there was a little thump on release, but I like the thump. The bow I shot was 66" and 60lb and it drew back like a 45lbr to me. I like the mild D/R bows. I can not comment on the stewards. But it's hard to not like a good hybrid bow.
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I have no experience with Robertson bows, but I dearly love my Stewarts. I have written of them often on various threads, and searching Stewart in Powwow will give you a lot of material for perusal.
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TGMM Family Of The Bow Posts: 15034 | From: Fibber McGee's Closet, VA | Registered: Mar 2003
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Never shot a Stewart, but I have a couple Robertsons. An older Mystical and a Vision (befor the Primal Styk). Theres not a whole lot of change over the years, they are awesome shooting bows! Mine had the little thump in the hand, didnt bother me, then I tried a low strand 8125 string and it was gone. They came with like an 18 strand FF+, that is where the thump comes from, Dick puts a lot of sring on'em.
My choice of any mild D/R bow would be a Robertson. Love them!
Eric
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Never shot a Stewart either, but have had a Primal Styk for a short time and feel the same as Westbrook...the heavy string does add significantly to both noise and vibration. A 12 strand FF makes it shoot like a different bow...much less thump, and quieter.
Would prefer a standard grip over the locator, but otherwise it's a good bow.
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Tom, your comments pointing out the more aggressive reflex / deflex design on the LS Slammer are very helpful. I hadn't made that observation. Greater speed and less hand shock sound good to me.
I did shoot a Primal Styk and loved it, even though the bow was a little short and heavy for me.
I wish I could try a Slammer before buying one new from Leon, but I haven't come across many of them here in Colorado.
Thanks! Rob
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I do have a Tsunami and a Griffon by McCullough. Do you think the LS Slammer would shoot more like these bows?
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Rob I have owned two of John's bows and they are nice for sure and the workmanship is great. For me the Slammer is just a bit more "alive" and just plain shootable. I have used it as my "benchmark standard"but that is just me. Your right there are not a whole bunch out west as his biggest following is in the east. Give him a call he is a great person and that is a bonus that goes with the bow. tom
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I have to say I haven't shot a more accurate out of the box bow like the Stewart slammer, I believe they are cut to center and and are very kind to arrow selection.
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Rob, Only have one slammer and I may never buy another bow in my life again. ETAR is a great event in late Aug. in Pa. You can shoot hundreds of bows and Leon always brings some awesome bows. If you are in the market, going to ETAR cannot be beat.
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Etar is in July, fmscan is getting old- tomorrow we fish frank can't come. FISH ON!!!!!!!
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Maxwell is right it is in late July, sorry, I'm old as Bill said, but stupid has nothing to do with age. Bill will be going fishing however he will not catch anything! FISH ON!!! yeah right!
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If you order the Stewart without shooting it, you won't be sorry. I have several bows, and my slammer is my go to bow. It was my first custom bow but I got it second hand. I did get to shoot it first, but had made up my mind to get a Stewart just before finding this bow. Mine is a three piece for traveling purposes but I find the extra weight helps steady the shot.
Good luck with whatever bow you decide to get.
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