quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by Bill Sant: Jim, As soon as he altered, sanded, played with the fit of any of the components, it is HIS. If it didn't fit like you sent it to him he might have a point, but in dealing with you as I have in the past, I'm sure he wouldn't have been dissatisfied with the final outcome. He screwed up when he took the sanding block to them. Good luck with the outcome, but your reputation as a solid guy to deal with is secure in my mind. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Dr. Saxton Pope Posts: 2290 | From: Montreal, Quebec | Registered: Jan 2006
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Jim, I would have done exacactly what you have done. Thjats the right thing and sometimes it hurts. Its one of those un-seen costs of doing business in a day and time where folks are sometimes a bit more dis honest and dis honerable than in times past. You can look in the mirror and know you are right and thats what counts Bro.
Like some others have said , whatever you did I believe that with your reputation and work ethic that it would have been the right thing and that this guy that is doing this to you is more than a bit less than honest.
I hope he reads this and perhaps sees how the perception is most favorable to you and less than favorable to him.;
I deeply admire what Bear offered but do not feel that it is their responsibility. The deal was between you and him and that is how it should stay. Sometimes its just a good thing to get one of these kind of deals behind you and forget it. Remember the name though and if you ever see him buying a bow from me please let me know. LOL
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Big Jim, those of us that have done business w/ you know better, nobody's going to run your name down! Posts: 112 | From: NY | Registered: Nov 2008
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When dealing with the public, there has to be an idiot or two that turns up. Sounds like he is yours. He screwed up the limbs, and now you are somehow the bad guy in his feeble mind. Those of us who have dealt with you in the past know that you are a straight up guy, so even if he tried to bad mouth you on this site he would not be well received. Do whatever your judgement tells you to do in this case, but keep putting out the great work and the great service that we have come to know from you, and this little scenario will soon be history. He had better be glad that it wasn't me he was dealing with; I probably would have included "and the horse you rode in on" in my response to him.
-------------------- Heroes don't wear capes, they wear dogtags. Posts: 2517 | From: WY - East face of the Bighorns | Registered: Oct 2007
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quote:Originally posted by robtattoo: Take a belt sander to his bow & mail it back to him. See how he likes it!
There's the response I was looking for!!! I am with Rob on this one!
Jim, I have never done business with you (Well I bought a book from you at the Hill shoot this past weekend) but I have read and heard enough about you to know that you trusted this jerk to do the right thing and you got burned! I am also pretty sure that if the same scenario came around in a few weeks you would probably take someone at his word all over again because that is just how so many of us in the Trad community are. You also did not let Bear eat the cost because of your character. Don't let the jerk change who you are or cause you to change your values or moral compass. And if you would like anyone to go with you to hand deliver his bow back to him I am sure you can find a few of us to tag along with you for "Moral Support"!
Traditional Bowhunters of Georgia Compton's Traditional Bowhunters Michigan Longbow Association Professional Bowhunters Society TGMM Family of the Bow Posts: 1047 | From: Gainesville, GA | Registered: Dec 2004
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I agree with everyone else,he should have sent them back before he modified them,although I really like Rob's idea.LOL Posts: 856 | From: Kentucky | Registered: Mar 2008
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quote: Take a belt sander to his bow & mail it back to him. See how he likes it!
I'd imagine that crossed a few minds--it has mine in similar situations--but if you give it a little thought you'll realize that going down to his level won't solve the problem, could likely just cause more problems, and it wouldn't be the honorable thing to do.
He bought the bow, he screwed it up, it's his. Great to know that Bear will stand behind their products to that degree--sure makes me take another look--but no sense in throwing gas on the fire. In my opinion of course.
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I think no matter what you do the dude will drag your name through the mud. Do what you need to do to minimize your losses as quick as possible and move on from this bad situation.
I've never personally done any business with you, but your reputation based on what I've read here on Trad Gang suggests to me that all the bad mouthing this guy could dish out wouldn't put a dent in your business.
-------------------- John Sweka - Howard, PA Posts: 2077 | From: Howard Pennsylvania | Registered: Aug 2009
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An older gent once told me in a somewhat similar situation where I was railing about idiocy of another person's behavior:"Son," he said, "if you're going to use logic to try to understand an illogical person's behavior, who's the fool?"
If this guy couldn't put limbs on and string a bow with functionally correct limbs, you've got a first-class, outa the closet, IDJUT.
Only way he could be dumber would be to be a wee bit bigger perhaps!
Whatever you do, do it for YOU and to your caliber of values. A man of his caliber cannot be made happy. Keep that in mind.
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TGMM Family of the Bow Sasquatch 60" T/D, R/D LB Posts: 11117 | From: L@ncaster County, PA | Registered: Mar 2003
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He chose to modify the limbs prior to speaking with you.......his choice, his cost.
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