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I have been using a brunton raptor for 5 yrs and its worked perfectly in temps down to 8* and elevations up to 12000. At the extreams it does take longer to boil water but still works. It folds down tiny and also has a piezoelectric self lighter, just push a button and go. Tablets are the lightest for water purification but you have to wait a bit to drink water (purify one bottle and let it set while drinking out of another). There is UV pen out that sterilizes water imediatly and only weighs a couple oz, but then you have to depend on batteries (maybe keep a couple tablets as an emergancy source of purification)
Posts: 128 | From: Monument, CO | Registered: Feb 2008
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I use a MSR Whisperlite. Easy to maintain and re-build in the field if necessary. I have never been a fan of the butane stoves simply because of the disposable nature of the canisters. I like topping off my fuel bottle before a trip and knowing exactly how much fuel I have.
I have a katydyn water filter that I like. Great peace of mind, but a little heavy. I would like to try one of the ultra-violet "pens".
Posts: 348 | From: Terrace,British Columbia | Registered: Jan 2005
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you lightest option will depend on the duration of the hunt. for hunts upto 5-6 days a small canister stove will be your lightest option. i have a kovea titanium stove and evernew tianium pot. together they weigh 160grams. then you have the weight of the canister.
however on trips longer than that a jetboil titanium sol would be a better choice. it's heavier but it ends up being a lighter option because it's over twice as efficient on gas.
i just got back from a 2 week backpack hunt in NZ. i used my kovea stove and evernew pot my buddy used his jetboil. i used a 230gram can plus most of a 110gram can. he used one 100gram can and part of another. though the jetboil is heavier than my kit it is a lighter setup for long trips because you don't have to carry as much gas. plus it performed better in the cold weather and boiled his water at least twice as fast.
if you get a canister staove be sure to use a propane, iso-butane gas mix. straight butane won't perform in cold weather. butane boils into a gas at about 4 degress C.
can't help with the filter
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Bob Lee t/d signiture recurve. 57# & 69# Posts: 1724 | From: in the hills south of Stanthorpe, Qld, Australia | Registered: Mar 2008
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The best advice I can give you... Start a backpacking hobby, and then one day take your bow hunting.
Since you asked... I use a Katadyne Hiker Pro (pull the cartridge out of it when you get home and let it dry) and an Optimus Crux Lite. The Soto Micro Regulator made it two trips before I broke one of the arms off that holds the pot. If it gets below freezing, toss your canister in the sleeping bag with you.
You could also save yourself a few years of hard knocks and track down EdT and go to one of his "Skills camps"
Posts: 398 | From: Flathead County, Montana | Registered: Nov 2004
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I've had really good luck with alcohol stoves, cheap and fun to play with. Google cat can stove and go from there. I've also had good luck with a kathadyn base camp, though any of the gravity options would probably make me happy. I'll probably pick up a filtering bottle for light/fast trips when I don't plan to do much cooking.
I'll second EdT's skills camp.
Posts: 1172 | From: Lexington, Kentucky | Registered: Aug 2007
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I like this http://emberlit.com/default.php for a stove and use a alcohol stove inside of it when I'm in a hurry or just want a cup of hot water. For a filter I've been looking at the Sawyer inline
Posts: 72 | From: Poulsbo Washington | Registered: Jul 2008
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AWP,I used to backpack bowhunt a lot in WV and back then my stove was a Svea 123 which operates off Coleman fuel.An old design but super reliable.A few years ago I bought a Jetboil and I'm sure it would work great for what you want.They are quite an efficient little rig.
I assume you would be hunting mid October to maybe as late as mid Nov.I believe the Jetboil would handle that.It is a good idea to do a couple shakedown trips to familiarize with all new equipment,before you get into an actual hunting trip.
If you are talking about backpack hunting your home state,you sure have some beautiful country to do it in and opportunities for a bear are way better than when I lived there.Good luck with your venture.
Posts: 2991 | From: Montana | Registered: Aug 2008
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Maybe some help from a chemist. re butane and cold weather ?
I believe the following to be true.
Both are simple hydrocarbons, composed only of carbon and hydrogen. Propane has three carbons, butane has four.
The boiling point of butane is listed as around .5 degrees C (in the low 30's F). That means below that point it is normally in liquid form. We are generally burning it in gaseous form, so it is not so easily available as a liquid.
Propane's boiling point is listed as around -42 degrees C. Realling stinking cold. Above that temperature it is in a gas form and is more available to burn in our stoves.
That is why propane works better in cold weather than butane.
Remember that liquid kept under pressure (in a can) can stay a liquid far above these temps, but to burn in our stoves, the stuff needs to boil and become a gas.
quote:Originally posted by AWPForester: ...what type of water purificator do you recommend. ...
IF you have water sources that offer fairly clear water where you hunt- more clear than lemonaid, than look into Steripen. It uses ultraviolet light to transform the DNA of those little buggers that will make you sick into harmless nothings. I use mine in Colorado and love it. No filters for me anymore to clean or plug up or carry around. The Steripen is lighter, smaller and is easy to use. They have used them in 3rd world countries for months on end and the peoples reviews for the last several years has been great- so its a tested in real life conditions product.
I like my SVEA 123 stove but they don't make them like they used to anymore so you would have to find an older used one. But if you prefer new things that you use, but don't need to understand, the 123 is probably not the stove for you. Google Svea 123 and read how trusted/beloved they are. Few wstoves work as well at elevation or when the chips are down.
Joshua
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quote:Originally posted by Lost Arra: 1. Jet Boil- make your life simple
2. Katadyn Base Camp gravity filter- like having a faucet at camp. I'm sure the other gravity filters work just as well. The Base Camp is the only one I've used.
Bought a JetBoil Flash for this year's elk hunt. I have been totally impressed with it in its tests here at home. it finished at 45 cups of water boiled at cold faucet low altitude. I believe it will do very well at altitude and really cold filtered stream water. Click here for my thread on it.
I, too, have used the Katadyn base camp and loved it, but...... I'm a gadget guy and bought a new filter this year. It's the Sawyer "All In One" system. Looks like it uses the same technology as my MSR Hyperflow without having to pump. Maybe ArkyBob will carry the Basecamp in his pack just for backup.
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Snowpeak giga stove for me, similar to the MSR pocket rocket. MSR mini works filter works well.
Posts: 23 | From: Iowa | Registered: Jan 2005
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My son and I each used the MSR Pocket Rocket butane stoves last year for elk hunting in Colorado. They weigh only 3 oz. and are 4" x 2" x 2". Wonderful little stoves that will boil one liter or water in four minutes. I would highly recommend this stove.
For water filtration, we used the MSR Sweetwater Microfilter. Another great product from MSR. You can't go wrong with either of these items!
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Ok, one thing to remember for Colorado for sure this year and probably some of the other Western States, you have to be able to shut off your stove, in other words the tablets you burn and the alcohol stoves aren't legal due to the burn ban restrictions, check the regs for where you are going, it's really bad this year for fire danger. Good Luck!
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