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Widow's Son
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Today I made a new string for my Navajo Stick. Fourteen strand dacron, green and yellow. While shooting it in I discovered that I didn't need no stinking silencers. I was really amazed by how quiet it was without them. I guess quiet is incorrect, noiseless would be more accurate.

Ross

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1966 Bear Kodiak 52#
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Bob B.
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Wow ... good on ya, and packer colors to boot! Any pics?

Bob.

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Night Wing
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The only way I can shoot a bow without any string silencers is to shoot a very heavy arrow of at least 13 GPP (grains per pound) or higher.

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Blacktail TD Recurve: 66", 37# @ 30". Arrow: 32", 2212. PW: 75 Grains. AW: 421 Grains. GPP: 11.37

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kawika b
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Video?

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ho`olohe ka pepeiao;
pa`a ka waha.

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shut the mouth.

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Terry Green
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Quiet IS noiseless [Big Grin]

Good job!!!.....what matterial?

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Widow's Son
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It's just good old B-50 dacron. I'm just really amazed, this bow doesn't make a sound. Just another reason I love longbows. I shoot a recurve about half the time but the longbows are starting to win out.

Ross

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1966 Bear Kodiak 52#
2000 Black Widow MAII
46# at 28"
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Big Ed
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Can't beat the B-50 for going stealthy quiet!!

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OBXarcher
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B 50 has made every bow of mine dead quiet. Use it on about half of them still. Better to be quiet than 8 ft/sec faster.
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BigJim
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That's Great! I personally don't care for the oscilation and the constant stretching of the Dacron. I also don't have any problems getting longbows quiet but yes, I do use silencers.

Dacron is definately the most popular string material though. I probably sell it 20 to 1 over the fast flite but I expect that is because there are still a lot of bows that require Dacron. That and it is cheaper.

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David McLendon
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I shoot a 6 strand Ultra Cam on my Shrew CH sans silencers, 10.8 gpp, but there is the death hiss of the Tree Shark or big Snuffer, so far it hasn't caused an issue.
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TSP
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Dacron is ALOT cheaper than modern string materials. A 1/4 lb. spool of almost any FF-type runs about $35-$45 depending on the material...and you need TWO of them to make multi-color two-lay strings. Compare that with about $16 for two spools of B-50. Yup, there's alot to be said for 'old spool'.
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Warchild
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Just started making B50 strings myself. I have been playing with 12 and 14 strand strings and have gotten some real performance out of my Schafer Silvertip and Great Northern Critter Gitter with them. They are quiet too but probably could be calmed down even more with a little wool yarn.

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quote:
I personally don't care for the oscilation and the constant stretching of the Dacron. I also don't have any problems getting longbows quiet but yes, I do use silencers.

Same here. I don't care about a few fps--don't know what kind of speed increase I get, if any. I like the durability, lack of stretch, and lack of creep. Haven't run into a bow yet that I couldn't get "hunting quiet", or a bow that was significantly quieter with dacron. A little tuning and tinkering can go a long way. I'd go as far as to say the major difference isn't volume, but rather pitch.

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Dacron is definately the most popular string material though. I probably sell it 20 to 1 over the fast flite
Not for me--Dynaflight '97 is still my #1 seller, and has been for years and years. Dacron might be second. Combine all of the "FF" materials I carry (Dynaflight '97, 8125, 8190, and 450+) and it's no contest--not even close.

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Dacron is ALOT cheaper than modern string materials.
Not really. Sure, you pay more per 1/4# spool, but you have other things to consider.

#1. The FF string will normally way out-last dacron. It's just tons tougher, whether normal wear and tear, or getting abraided in rough conditions.

#2 You get a lot more material with most of the FF materials vs. dacron, because they are smaller in diameter. For instance...

8190 has 9,500 waxed ft. per 1# spool
452X has 8,800 waxed ft. per 1# spool
8125G has 8,200 waxed ft. per 1# spool
Dynaflight '97 has 6,700 waxed ft. per 1# spool

B-500 and B-55 (both dacron) have only 4,300 waxed ft. per spool.

On top of that, you don't normally use as much of the FF materials in a string as you do dacron.

Take all of that into consideration, and in the big picture you aren't paying that much for that extra durability, reduced stretch, and reduced creep. Not a big difference in the price of finished strings either.

Chad

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dragonheart
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What is the difference between B-500 and B-55?

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rick7
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agree with big ed b50 for me
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