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pavan
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This is truly an amazing shooting bow. I am so spoiled.

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two4hooking
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I knew you would like it! The dual shelf is unique.

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I have gone the one bow route, and find that shooting only my Legendstick my accuracy has improved. It was tough at first to go from about 30 ASLs to one, but I'm glad I did. Now I buy and if I think the "new" bow has enough to replace my old bow, I send the old one packing, if it doesn't someone gets a good deal on a bow! Beautiful bow Pavan!
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Congrats Larry!

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Great shooting with that new bow, Larry. You are entitled to brag!

Frank

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pavan
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Not bragging because I wasn't really aiming. Aiming at nocks already in the target can cause lazy eye and lots of broken nocks. I sort of look at gaps in between stuff or individual arrow holes. It is a big target, so I spread the love around a bit. Now if I get my hands on someone good witha video camera and especially adding a good coin tosser, the ones that can tossed the coin so good that they can toss in front of an on coming arrow, then, I will be bragging. But truth be told, it is all up to the coin tosser and he or she is the one that should be bragging. You have to be exceptional to be able to hit a moving arrow with a coin.

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A buckskinner that lives in a teepee part of the year is coming over for a bow and some arrows. I am not sure whether he would prefer my pig nut hickory, my 70" Kodiak Special or something else like one of my other longbows. He is a strong slim guy that cuts down trees with hand tools and builds stuff with only hand tools, just for the work and the challenge. I am thinking that he may have a longer draw than me, he is about 5'11". I am thinking he may go for the pig nut, but I may need to adjust it to a longer draw and lighter pull weight.

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RJonesRCRV
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Here is my Dale Phillips Nodebow, next to my Kimsha Mattawoman II. Some people have called my Mattawoman a Hill bow because of the strung profile, but Id consider it a hybridized Hill influenced bow or something along those lines, though I havent actually confirmed this with Tom at Kimsha.

I guess Dale Phillips was a bowyer for Howard Hill back in the late '40s or early '50s. The Nodebow is 3 bamboo lams with a walnut riser. I got it from Tom Parsons. It was a lefty, Tom told me to cut it into a righty. My geometry of the new sight window isnt exactly like the original, and my new grip came out a bit off center, but it shoots great.

It has some string follow; I think thats the right term.

You can see what looks like Hill style broadheads in the emblem.

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nineworlds9
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That node bow is pretty darn cool!!

The Kimsha is a mild deflex-reflex that braces to a D shape. They are sweet. Call me not a purist but as much as I enjoy Hill bows I love a good mild D/R bow.

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RJonesRCRV
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Yeah just a casual glance at the Kimsha bows braced profile seems like a D, thats what gets people, along with the almost straight grip shape. I think I am starting to like the true Hill bows, Just need to find a lighter draw. That 58# gets heavy with lots of shooting, as I discovered when I went and shot Sawmill this year. Maybe need about 43# or so.

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I have a 43# @ 29" Mattawoman, just a great shooter and a favorite of mine.

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In the beginner's mind there are many possibilities. In the expert's there are few...So the most difficult thing is always to keep your beginner's mind...This is also the real secret of the arts: always be a beginner. Shunryu Suzuki

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That lower limb looks like it has a bit of a hinge to it? Or is it the pictures?

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RJonesRCRV
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I think its the angle of the picture coupled with the shape of the bamboo at one of the nodes. Ive noticed it too, but it seems to shoot just fine. When drawn, the tiller seems the even out, with that spot being a bit stiffer to compensate.

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by pavan:
[QB] Hill wrote that his arrow travels from right to left in his sight line. He anchored past the corner of his mouth with the bow canted. The further one is from the target the less degree that will appear to be. With bows that are less center shot, I cant the bow more. When Hill wrote that his bows were not at all center shot, they never were center shot, probably in his pre-fiberglass days. He added the little leather foots as an arrow rest because his bows did not have much if any sight window cut outs. Staying away from that silly paradox theory stuff, Hill acknowledged his arrow position, according to his writing, although John Schulz said that he never taught that to him in the 50s. I suppose that over time the secondary 'imaginary' aiming point becomes instinctive, but over time the normal hand/eye coordination subconsciously develops a similar

Re: "with bows that are less center shot, I cant the bow more"

Good tip Paven. I tried that with my Morning Star yesterday and it seemed to help.

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Any Hill Kills?

Been chasing skwerls, groundhogs here!

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