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Etter
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Yeah. The first couple deer I see every year are hand shakers
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Practice the shot process, get it ingrained to the point that it's second nature. Won't matter what the target is. I don't get tore up until after the fact, shot or not. Masters of the Barebow, Volume III or even better, a Rod Jenkins clinic. It's not just for targets.

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I focus on the shooting process.

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Confidence is king.

For me, KNOWING the shot is easy(within range, relaxed animal, Ect.) helps a ton.

I learned some time ago that I carry a great fear of making a poor hit. KNOWING I`m shooting good and knowing my effective range, where I hit with EVERY arrow EVERY time, has helped a lot.

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Nantahala Nut
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I will share some stuff from my previous line of work. I was a golf pro and there are so many similarities between executing golf shots and archery.
Watch the best golfers on tv. They all have a pre shot routine. They do it every time. It helps prepare the body and mind for the shot. Once they start the routine it is like flipping a switch and they focus on nothing but the shot. The routine is usually initiated with some type of physical cue like tapping the club on the ground.
When they stand behind the ball they are visualizing a good shot flying to its target. This step is especially valuable for archers. Visualize the arrow flying to target. This helps your mind tell your body what to do.
When they stand over the ball they will have one swing thought. Sometimes it's mechanical, sometimes it's rhythm. For me I just think PULL. It's a thought that reminds me to draw smooth and keep my tension.
Most pro golfers have a cue that actually begins the shot. They might waggle the club twice and then swing or tap the club on the ground or slight move their hands forward and then swing back. This like a psycho trigger. I like the feather to touch my nose. It tells me I have back tension and I'm ready to let it fly. When at full draw and on target I think of nothing but the target. Mechanical type thoughts make your muscles tense. Let the subconscious take care of that. Practice ingrains mechanics into subconscious muscle memory.

Hope this gave someone some insight.

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This is a great thread. Timely too. Hard to believe my heart rate is up just reading these! Getting closer to my first trad deer hunt in more than 30yrs. And where I hunt just seeing deer is a thrill.

Keep the tips coming.

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Would suspect that having hundreds of close encounters that I presented solid shot opportunities were left to enjoyment has quelled the nerves.

Have envisioned picking the spot and performing a detailed shot execution a thousand times on live animals. Also actually draw on numerous deer each season. Note: Visualization of perfect shot execution is a significantly integral facet of my own personal training.

My own personal relentless drive to continuously hunt is fuelded by enjoying the outdoors, viewing the fruits of continued property enhancement and the appreciation of these majestic animals.

The shot execution , for me, is like eating a boloney sandwich. I have ample time to shake and celebrate after a proper shot ex3cution.

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I don't know about everyone else but I still get tore up when I know I'm about to get a good shot. If I didn't I guess I would quit hunting. I'm usually so concentrating on the animal's attitude to when I think I can pull back and stick him without detection from me I really don't think about a shot sequence or anything, It just seems to happen. The shot always just seems a blur. I don't know if you can understand that but I really don't know how to put it in words.
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I just focus on a spot....and nothing but that spot. Works for me.

I usually stay somewhat calm before and during the shot. Its after the arrow hits its mark that I get tore all to pieces.

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Like all those guys have said focus on a spot. Missed my first shot on a deer with traditional gear because I was looking at the whole animal instead of a spot. Only have taken 2 shots on a live deer; that was #1, #2 the top limb on my bow failed! One of these days! [Big Grin]

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Guys I'm an expert on this. Lol. Seriously misses at game hurts. I've taken some nice bucks but I'd gladly exchange the bucks that got away for the ones I got. I once missed a red hartebeest bull at 15 yards by 2 feet! How do you miss a 400 pound animal by that much? I'm the type that would so often just completely fall apart right before the shot. Three or four years ago I was calling in a turkey for a lady Bowhunter that I'm friends with. She had never gotten a turkey. So anyway I got one on a string. I mean a shot is imminent. The bird came right to us and she ended up spooking him while drawing and he got away. After it was over she remarked as to how worked
up I was. I was shaking, the whole bit and I didn't even have a bow in my hand! I decided I needed to get it together. I mean I've been doing this a long time and I've killed a lot of animals. It was time to try to get control. You how so often we "black out" during the shot when the big one comes by? I wanted to stop that from happening. Ever notice how the best shots you have ever made on game were the ones where you can to this day remember the spot on the deer you were aiming at? I wanted less of the "blackouts" and more of those. Fast forward to the following turkey season. I had just come off of one of my worst deer seasons of my life as far as screw ups. I told myself that spring that I was going to calm myself down and remain present in the shot at a turkey or I was prepared to let him just walk away. I only had 3 mornings to hunt. I decided to do this on a turkey because I know damn good and well it would be a lot harder for me with a nice buck. When I finally got one into the decoys I did just that. I calmed myself by using combat breathing. Then I actually talked myself through every aspect of the shot by physically mouthing the words, draw and anchor, aim, etc. I remember the feather I was aiming at and I waxed him. The next 2 deer seasons I did the same things and I remember exactly where I was aiming on all of the deer I shot. Since then I have come into contact with some of Joel Turners teachings and I believe it's all going to be downhill from here. If you are one of those guys who just has a blackout during the shot and seems to have success then I wouldn't worry about it. But if you are like me and just blackout, miss and then wonder what the hell just happened just know that I think you can get over this, even if it isn't easy. Do something to snap yourself out of that "blackout" stage and back into the present. Slow down. Don't rush it. I'd highly recommend looking into Joel Turners stuff as well. It is frustrating to shoot well on targets only to blow it on the big buck or bull simply because you lost control mentally. You can do this!

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Excellent post John. I've had a bad couple years . I've killed a boat load of game over the years and most were good shots with great results. But this year I've " blacked out" twice and completely missed both deer I was shooting at. I was dang lucky I missed them instead of suffering a bad hit. It helps to know this has happened to others and you worked through it. Bowhunting has been my life for 30 plus years and I really need to get through this slump I'm in. I know it happens but to wound a animal because I couldn't control my shot is un acceptable to me. And I almost called it a season even though we still have 3 months left.

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I’m fortunate that we can bait deer and im confident I’ll get the shot I need. Also,seeing all of the trail cam pictures helps with confidence the buck will be there for awhile, so I’m not rushed at all and can relax and enjoy the encounter.

It’s not uncommon for the deer to be in close quarters for several minutes before I drop the string. Have non target does and small bucks in front of me for long periods also helps with the nerves at crunch time.

Breathing definitely helps and should be done

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I have never been one for listening to pod casts but this year I found myself driving quite a bit to hunt and my kids set me up to listen to "the Push"...
I started on episode 1 and have found them to be very entertaining and full of useful information...

For me, I found many helpful hints. Some I knew and had forgotten and some new too me. Perhaps most importantly as evidenced in the others who have posted, i am not alone in the never ending quest for consistancey and accuracy under presure.

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I haven't really figured it out yet lol
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