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Bowguy67
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I didn't let em cut me. I did physical therapy and it helped. They wanted to do surgery though. I just wouldn't let em
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Kresnik
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Yep, I recovered just fine and I would even say I found it a bit of a blessing in disguise simply because I was not focusing so much on my shoulder when holding and I was able to get to more or less a full hold with all of the archery muscle groups.

The one thing I did have a hard time on though was carrying a heavy pack. It shortened my scouting season to nearly nothing during recovery but I was out slinging arrows after 3 months.

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Ray Johnson
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I've had surgery on both shoulders a few years ago. Long recovery but I can shoot now. I couldn't before. I still have some issues with both but surgery in my case was necessary because I had massive tears with pain and weakness. I'm much better overall.
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Readers Digest version.

Was seriously hurt at work.
Both shoulders and left elbow had surgery done in June 2016 and October 2016. Even had bicep muscles cut, moved, and re-anchored and attached into the bones.

With lots of Physical Therapy, I retained most of my original range of motion.
Began using dumbbell weights for a few months.
Then slowly began exercising my arm/back muscles using a very light bow.

I was practicing with my 45# longbow in the back yard.
But, I will not be able to bow.hunt this season, due to not being accurate enough to take game cleanly out to 20 yards (60 feet).
With proper practice at a slow pace, I should be back into the game.

My advice would be to get the surgery done.
Cortisone injections will not be a proper long term solution for your needs.
Most times the cortisone injection, is a waste of time.

Bite the bullet, get the surgery. You will not regret doing it.

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Prolo-therapy strengthened left. Right shoulder full rotator cuff surgery in April. . . back shooting full weight (55# @ 31") Aug 1. Feeling great. . .

Dan in KS

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Walt Francis
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My recovery was a little different from those described above.

I went through the cortisone injections, they had little to no relief. Next, the shoulder surgery, then followed it up with physical therapy for three months. Continued doing the exercises for over one year. The shoulder was not any better at three, six, or twelve monthes. At six months I switched to shooting left-handed and went seven for seven the first year (seven arrows on seven different deer) all with pass throughs. A year and a half later, thinking I'd never be able to shoot right-handed again, I sold almost every custom and high end bow I owned. The only bow kept was my Schafer two piece longbow.

Two and a half years after the surgery I was sorting through a pile of selfbows I had made, they were leaning in the corner of my archery room and one of them caught my eye. I picked it up and was wondering if it could be adapted to shoot left-handed without too much tweaking. I strung it up and drew it left-handed but the grip would need changed and the tips adjusted some. Then on a whim I drew it right-handed and didn't feel any pain. A few more pulls and everything felt fine. Been shooting mostly right-handed since with almost no issues.

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Its easy to identify with many of y’all out there with shoulder problems, especially Walt’s experience as, in recent years I have had drop down in draw weight to accommodate my right shoulder as my mid 50’s bows were causing too much pain.

Lookin’ back a few years I found myself visiting the Doc for cortisone injections which worked great for a couple or so but that was it… the Doc told me he would no longer “shoot” my shoulder because the injections would cause more harm than good from that point on.

Bad news indeed, and like Walt, I started to replace my prized but heavier bows with those with lighter holding weight.

Moving from Michigan to South Carolina a year ago, in concert with retirement, pushed me toward an unexpected victory; I needed to keep active in order to remain healthy so I did what worked for me years ago while spending four years in China where I taught foreign oil exploration engineering teams business communication. Back then I spent most week day afternoons on the basketball court runnin’ and shootin’ basketball mostly to keep my sanity. It was good for me in more ways than the previous two...

Eventually, when I returned to the USA in 2011 I started shooting agai. Long story short, I was able to shoot longbows again and experienced ZERO discomfort in my right shoulder. Now, six years later…same story. Consistent upper movement of my right arm/shoulder over a few months completely eliminated the discomfort / pain when drawing a bow.

I'll be 65 in a few months...get outta that recliner!! Run and gun!... it's worth the effort!!

YMMV [wavey]

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reddogge
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One thing my physical therapist is adamant about with my two shoulder impingements (fancy word for hurts a lot) is if there is any pain with any activity or movement STOP THAT ACTIVITY OR MOVEMENT IMMEDIATELY. It just aggravates the swelling and inflammation.

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A Lex
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Had my right shoulder done 2013, four months later was back to shooting my normal bow.

Going in in two days to get my left one done. Just an age and worklife thing.

Religiously did all the PT and excercises required last time, and the right shoulder has been fantastic since.

Will again do what I'm told and fully expect the left shoulder to recover totally too.

Not looking forward to the process though, was pretty painful last time, but certainty looking forward to the result.

It's certainly time to get this one done, I'm over the limited movement and pain. Just hadn’t been able to swing it with work and finances. My wonderful mother-in-law has offered to cover my lost wages while I cannot work. I feel very very blessed indeed.

A loving family is a wonderful thing.

If you need to get it done and have the opportunity to do so, do it!

Best

Lex

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My PT wanted to know what physical activities I enjoy. I told her shooting a trad bow and arrows. She wanted to see how I do this. So I mimiced drawing a bow to anchor. She told me I was “jamming the shoulder”. She went on to tell me the body is created for circular movements. Started drawing like Jimmy Blackmon instructs with the “J” movement and I just don’t have any he same problems anymore. No jammed or pinching of muscles and nerves.

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Matabele
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Awesome to hear all your experiences! Sounds like it's been a positive move to make for almost everyone. I've got a doc appointment booked for next week for a referral to a specialist. Should have done this years ago by the sounds of it!
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Alrighty,

Got home from hospital yesterday afternoon, still a bit groggy and in a bit of pain.

Operation on my shoulder turned out to be somewhat more involved than originally thought. What was going to be an arthroscopic clean up of a couple of partial tears ended up being an open shoulder operation to repair a 90% tear.

So it's no bows and arrows for me for a while.

Will have to wait and see what the end result will be but I'm pretty positive. Time and PT again I guess.

Will take a couple more days for the pain to settle down and to clear my head, then we'll work on getting all healed up and back into the bow.

The immense joy I get shooting and hunting with my longbow is a powerful incentive to do all the recovery steps right.

Best

Lex

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A lot of good advice here, Had left shoulder done 2 weeks ago everything seems good so far. I have 1st doc visit tomorrow since surgery find out what is next. As I understand I will be in sling for 6 weeks???? don't know how soon PT can start? I will need other shoulder done later.

Keep information coming thanks.
Bob

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Doug Treat
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I have had shoulder issues for years and dropped down to 35# bow. For me, if I use my shoulders for other things (other than archery) and keep them limber (doing shoulder-specific exercises) without overdoing it, I can shoot my 40# bow but I still need to keep my shot count down. I found this summer that paddling a kayak seems to help.
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Matabele
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I was wondering how long recovery after surgery has been in general? I mean to be able to do every day tasks, not necessarily archery or exerting yourself. Id be able to get a couple weeks leave off work but not much more than that.
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