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coaster500
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I'm sorry your experience was terrible and this outfits’ performance is inexcusable... It does sound as if you at least got to hunt and were to some degree successful but this is one scary story..... Fortunately for me my experience was great but I talked to at least 20 people, and read many more reviews over a period of 5/6 years before my deposit hit the mail. I talked with my PH for the same period of time and asked many questions and gauged his demeanor and attitude from his responses. Being a man of limited means I needed to know who this man was and what to expect. I had no surprises at least of the negative kind.

Ben I'm very sorry as I know what it costs and the effort it takes to put a trip like this together only to have an experience like yours.

Research, research, and then research everyone.... Ben thanks for sharing and let it be a red flag for the rest of us!!!

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hybridbow hunter
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Really bad !
If one day you want to forget all this nasty trip and people and have dream trip, you can find here a lot of address from several of us tradgangers who went several times there with great time.

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Coldfingers
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The biggest problem was the lack of communication. I was pretty much in the dark the whole trip. Steyn was NOT geared to archers, trad archers in particular and it seems that even with ample warning, they sort of "punted" at the last moment when when we hit the ground in SA.

The saving grace for me was the time spent with my son and seeing lots of critters I had only seen pictures of. My son did take a very nice Kudu (his first big game with a bow of any sort) and followed up with Gemsbuck and Impalla. Fortunately, he shot up all my money and I did not have to fret over trophies and such 8*()

The place we stayed was NOT the SA Hilton for sure but it was better than the ol blue tarp I am used to ;*)

Try to ponder the good times Ben, the rest will go down in history as a bump in the learning curve ;*)

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I was wondering what there website looked like. Un real what a website developer can do. I scanned through it and they keep referencing the Main Lodge, which looks like a spa.

I just can't beleive they are that mis leading. It is very unfortunate. I see where your coming from Ben, as far as expectations accomodations, hunting conditions etc....

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So sorry you had a horrible trip, there are some really bad boot leg outfits out there, and you got the worst of it.

What contracts do you have for the trip?

Also please be sure to file a report with PHASA in South Africa.

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FILL OUT A REPORT TO THE PUBLICATION '' THE HUNTING REPORT'' THAT WILL TAKE CARE OF THAT
ANDY

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storm5
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Hello

I am a South African Outfitter and it disturbs me greatly when i hear stories to this effect about our industry.

Please could i ask you to send all this information to PHASA (www.phasa.co.za), OR SPEAK DIRECTLY to Adri Kitshoff at the above office. She is the chief executive officer and can be contacted on 0027126672048.

There are rouges in any industry but they need to be exsposed and dealt with, and this can only be done by the ofiliating organisations.

Thank you and we are sadened that this has happened. As we are proud of our country our continent and our industry.

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jeanpaul3006
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So sorry to hear about your hunt. There are great outfitters out there. I just got back from spiral horn outfitters and had a great experience. Definately contact phasa, they need to know about your experience.
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Joseph
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That sucks! If you can get past your totally justifiable feelings about how bad your experience was I would recomend giving Africa another try. It is a magical experience when you have a good trip.

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Hello Ben and other readers.I as a South African resident (born Rhodesian) am so embarresed right now after reading this report about the disgusting treatment you recieved in this country.I hang my head in shame.I hunt alot in SA using bow and rifle.This type of treatment is certainly criminal no matter where the customer comes from.I would not stand for it either.
I am not an outfitter but know a few.There are many many great companies that can provide proper hunts and accomodation and service.Please do not write off returning,if you are financially able to you must return.I can guide you if need be.
Sorry once again to read this nonscnece you had to endure.Fly by night outfitters need to be eradicated.
Cheers
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Benny Nganabbarru
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This is really appalling. You should share your experience as widely as possible. Are you on the Accurate Reloading forum?

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Sorry to hear of your bad experience this happens more than we hear.

There are some good places in Africa, just have to be careful where you book, I don't think I would have been as patience as you.

I know a place in Zambia that we are working with to establish a confidence with the owner. Its 5000 acres or better and lots of game the accomdations are rustic but he lets us have the run of the place and cook our on meals, no guide service hunt like you want and pay for the game you shoot, if we can we want to establish a place for bowhunters that want to do it on the own.

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Hi Ben, what a terrible experience at the hands of my countrymen! They are not the norm, I assure you. Have you made contact with anyone from Phasa? I publish one of the local newspapers in the Lephalale-area and would like to run a synopsis of your experience along with a response from Phasa. I think it is important that the local outfitters realise how their actions reflect on the entire industry. It is also important to test the authority of a body like Phasa when it comes to inapropriate behaviour by ph's and outfitters.
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Sounds like some of the Quebe outfitters.Hopefully you can get some satisfaction.

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WHAT MINT SAID!!!!
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