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BUFF
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Just like that, I get a call for a PAC Elephant hunt mid April.
I will have to use my 83# Iron wood bow. No time to have one made heavier.
My problem is my arrow weight.
My buffalo hunts I used a carbon express 350 shaft with a beamon flash shft inserted inside. 100 grain brass insert with a 200 grain head to end up with a arrow that weighs 900 grains.
I really want to heavy this up to around 1162 (14 grains per pound)
Any body have any ideals how to get there?
I need a shaft that will fit into the hearitage shaft that weighs 14 grains per inch

Buff

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Brock
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Didnt Monty Browning put a fiberglass shaft inside of an aluminum shaft for his Cape Buffalo hunt....might be a thought to consider as you can pick up fishing arrows quite readily. A 2219 or 2317 with a solid fiberglass arrow inside might work...depending on shaft diameter of the fishing arrow for a snug fit.

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Danny Rowan
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If you put a 300 gr. Tuff head with a 100 gr steel adaptor on the front of that shaft you will have ove 1100 grains I believe.

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G'day mate,

I have some of the Grizzystik Safaries that I push foam rod into (they use it in to push between bricks in walls, to be found in hard wear stores) ....with a brass insert and one of the Vintage single bevel BHs I am sure you could get well over 1000 grains.

Wether you get correct arrow flight is another thing and all part of the fun of leading up to the hunt.

If you want, I could send you one of the shafts already made up with the foam rod in it so you can bare shaft it if you like?

ak.

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I just weighed one of these shafts and bare shaft with a wrap on it comes in at 630g. Again if you use one of the 300g Tuffheads with a 100g steel BH adapter and add in the weight of the fetching I'd say the arrow would come in at 1100 grains.

Again... With that much weight up front might disrupt your dynamic spine to much and not get correct arrow flight...

Your call.

ak.

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Will weed whacker cord fit inside the Beman shaft? That may get the weight up without effecting the spine. [dunno]

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Shawn Leonard
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If you go to an actual .300 spine carbon express(their spine rating is not what the arrow is labeled, in other words a .350 is not spine .350)than you could do as Danny says and add a steel 100 adapter and a 300 grain head plus the 100 grain brass insert and that would get ya over 1100 grains. If not an aluminum stuffed with a fish arrow will get ya darn close to 1400 I believe. Shawn

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Dangerous game FMJ come as heavy as 17.2gpi and with 500 grains up front you would be over 1000 and I think you can stuff a skinny axis in them and get up to 1250 or more, not sure on the axis fitting but I see the FMJs come in 9/32nds. and a bit bigger. Just got me thinking! Shawn

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Alaska Bowhunter supply has a Elephant arrow that combined with their 350 grain Ashby head weighs 1260 grains.
They are sending me one to bare shaft. If it flys well that will be the ticket. If it is too weak, all the better I can still use my GK dangerous game head at 200 grains and be at 1110.
If not I will keep trying.

I wonder if silver solder adds to the spine if I up it inside what I'm shooting now?

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Good luck! Keep us all posted as this thing progresses.

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Good luck on the hunt,
can't wait for the photos and video!

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Looks like you are on your way to finding something that will work, Marty! All I got to say is Good Luck (and if you need to hire a cameraman you know I am retired! [thumbsup] ).

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BUFF

what do you draw?

ive got some 2219s with GT3555s inside. I use a 100gr brass insert, glued into the 3555.

shaft is about 700gr at 31" add 100gr insert, then you only need 300 more up front, easy with a steel adapter and Tuffhead.


its an easily repeatable, readily available, strong spine solution. I havent tested it but I expect below .200 deflection

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Well my 2 grizzly stick shafts came in.
29" long with. 200 grain insert and a 315 grain field tip they are too stiff.
I have now ordered some 300 grain tips from Tuff broad head along with a 125 grain steel insert. That is going to put the arrow up around 1380 grains. Tat is a little more than I wanted but I don't really have a choice if I stick with the grizzly stick arrow. I will have to add weight to weaken the shaft.

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Benny Nganabbarru
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Marty, will this PAC ele be a cow or a bull, do you know? Good luck!

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