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Jason Lester
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Very nice Mickey as always.

That white one reminds me of the one you showed me a couple years ago. Didn't you get your deer with that one that year.

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Pasty... if the point of the head is aligned with the centerline of the shaft, and if the head spins true, it will fly true. I do shoot them into foam once or twice to make sure they fly before I will hunt with them.

Bowspirit..I wish. Knapping is a talent I have not acquired. I trade, buy, beg or whatever to get my flint heads.

Jason..yes I did kill a deer with a flint that year and have an article coming out in a future issue of Primitive Archer about it.

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thats so sweet!!!!!!!is there DVD that is good on Knapping? [Smile]

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the Ferret
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My heroes when it comes to flint knapping are Tim Ott, Roy Boggs, and DTala and my heroes when it comes to killing critters with flint are Tim Ott, DTala and Doug Campbell. Those boys throw the rocks at em and slay em!

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the Ferret
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Heres a pic of some mounted flint heads I had saved...not sure who mounted these

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and some beautiful flint heads with awesome colors. I don't know who knapped these heads below but I have been told the process to make them, makes them very brittle and not really good for hunting. These are more along the collectible lines of arrowheads.

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Brian P.
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Those heads on the bottom are from Ron Sanders, I believe. Too short posted that pic. Right bfore I got ahold of Ron and ordered these LOL.

Still waiting til I get a selfbow made before I try to take a deer with em.

The bottom pic is of a couple I mounted on Laminated Birch shafts. Dont remember who I bought them from. They fly great though. Think I used 5 min epoxy with artificial sinew to mount them.

BP

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This tutorial was a big help to me and just what the Dr. ordered. Where can I get some of these heads to do this?

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Just going to add my $0.02 learned from making and shooting a ton of flint tipped arrows.

The process for mounting described and shown is dead on to the one that I use. I will add however, that more sinew is needed both where it criss-crosses over the point and behind the point to prevent splitting.

All of the heads shown moutned in the pic with your bow and knife require additional sinew to avoid possible lateral movement when shot into a critter. The haft is the weakest link in the system and I think we need to do as much as possible to avoid trouble here.

I hope that I can respectfully submit this suggestion knowing full well that your knowledge of bowyery is well beyond mine.

Below is a pic of a point I used to kill a deer this year. I thought I had used plenty of sinew and ground the edges of the point sufficiently.....apparently this was not the case. The arrow did its job quickly and efficiently, but the point still came loose because of broken sinew.
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Here is a pic of one of my hunting points hafted with emu sinew. It is crucial to get enough sinew both in the criss-cross and between the notches around the tip of the shaft.

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Another thing to note is that artificial sinew os made of nylon and as such stretches quite a bit. A head hafted with arificial sinew relies entirely on the glue or pitch for strength. Try some fly tying thread or flax string making thread if you don't have any real sinew.

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Matt I respect your opinion very much and will put some more sinew on mine if that is your suggestion. I met Matt on the old Leatherwall close to 10 years ago when he was just a college student and he knapped this head for me in about 10 minutes at Mojam 1. Matt knows knapping! You can see by the markings on it I was a complete newbie at mounting flint heads and actually drew on the head how I wanted to mount it. Under the copious amount of hide glue it says "Made by Matt Graesch Mojam 1". It has been on my trophy wall ever since.

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and here is a head that I killed a deer with a couple years ago. The head was knapped by Steve White. This head entered the doe on the left side passing thru the ribcage and was stopped by the offside shoulder. The deer made it less than 75 yards. The arrow survived intact and only breakage on the head was a chip off the bottom left corner as seen in this photo

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COOL! I totally forgot about that head........looks good even now. I just wanted to add a comment based on lots of broken points and hafts.

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the Ferret
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quote:
Originally posted by flntknp17:
I just wanted to add a comment based on lots of broken points and hafts.

Matt

Glad you did Matt. I'm certainly no expert (just someone with a little experience willing to pass along what I know) and rely on people such as yourself to make sure I don't give others bad information. Appreciate all the help I can get.

Brian those are some nice looking heads. Those 2 that are mounted look like they would get the job done nicely
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Good stuff Mickey [thumbsup]

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Brian,
Do you have Ron Sanders contact information? If so I would like to get it.

Thanks,

Walt Francis

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Thanks Mickey [thumbsup] [Not Worthy]
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