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Covey
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Good job on the arrows! I also like the hat and the pipe.. thats a good look on ya! [Big Grin] [thumbsup] Jason

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You make em like me TW, same principles. I like it.

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I have a couple of questions. Since you're waiting for fletching I thought this might be a good place to ask. Hope you don't mind.

You started out with 32" shafts. Assuming you're going to cut those down, won't that affect the spine? And if so, how do you know which spine to start out with in order to get the spine you want after the cut?

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Those are looking great TW. Good on you for doing this. Helping a lot of guys.

Rooselk. Shaft spine is always based on 28". You add or subtract spine depending on length over or under that number. Hope that helps.

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TW

Great build along....do you glue on the nocks to align the grain perpendicular to the string? What is the thinking there? Consistency, paradox...?

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Yes, what magnus said. Plus, Fletcher was a great and instrumental help in my learning process. My bow, is 68", 51# @ 29" and not cut to center. Using the 145gr point weight that I want I will cut these arrow 30.5" back of point and trim down 'til I get good flight. I was going to bare shaft but, instead, I'm going to fletch, shoot and trim as needed. I'm going to hazard a guess but, I think they will probably hit at about 29.5 b.o.p. I will report results as I test. [thumbsup]

Did that help any?

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Macatawa, no, if the grain is running perpendicular with the string you run the chance of splitting the shaft if the nock fails. Thus, in essence causing a dry fire and possibly do damage to yourself and bow. Having the grain horizontal to the string allows the energy of the string to push against the grain rather than with it. I hope I am explaining this correctly.

Imagine taking a knife blade and pushing it along the grain, the shaft will split easier. Now if you push the blade against the grain, it will be much harder as it won't give.

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Magnus, I did not know that. Thanks for clearing that up for me. [thumbsup]

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In addition to what TW said above, the edge side of the grain is stronger and gives a much more consistent spine weight. That is how the majority of the shaft makers weigh the spine.

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Thanks Ric! That's a much shorter way of putting it than my long winded explanation. [biglaugh]

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Very nice build. Thank you for sharing. Looks like a lot more fun then the 6 carbons I put together this weekend

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When I first started this thread, the raw shafts weighed between 410-420gr. Just to show how they gain in weight as you progress I weighed each shaft again with just the stain, finish and nocks. Here are the results:

440
438
448
442
440
447
448
444
446
448
446
440

They are now between 438-448 grains.

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Thanks a lot Wannabe1 I have be wanting to make up some wooden shafts, but do not have dippers. This has been a big help.
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great post,thanks

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It might be a moot point but will you weigh them again after cutting to 30.5 just as a check? Or have you already cut them?

I just made up some 28" bop Ramin 5/16 shafts and the finished product weighs roughy in the 510 range with the 125gr point glued on. I'm hovering right at 10gpp. What are you shooting for on finished total weight? I have a hi and lo so far at 518 and 500.

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