I hate this time of year. I've got a bunch of different heads and can't decide what's going in the quiver this season.
It's narrowed down to Eskimo 4 blades, Delta 4 blades, and Ace Standard 2 blades.
1) Ace Standards: Toughest of the bunch. Two blades for best penetration. Fly great. Bad side...only two blades (that bloodtrail thing everyone talks about).
2) Eskimo 4 blades: Taken deer with them before. Plenty tough. Got a dozen new ones in the cabinet. Fly decent. Decent bloodtrails. Bad side...four blades and don't penetrate as well as the Ace heads.
3) Delta 4 blades: Never hunted with them before. Flight is alright, but a little more touchy that the others. BIG wound channel. Got a bunch of them too. Bad side...not as good penetration as the others.
Every time I think I've got it figured out, I start changing my mind again. It's driving me NUTS!!! Posts: 3746 | From: Northeast Illinois | Registered: Mar 2003
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thanks , jason ...hey in another post I was wondering if u couls tell me about that pretty recurve with elevated rest..pretty wood!..#78 mc
-------------------- "If you're living your life as if there is no GOD, you had better be right!" Posts: 12162 | From: Baton Rouge , La. | Registered: Mar 2003
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Way WAY back in the 60's and 70's I hunted with Bear Razorheads. After checking around and listening up to some real serious (and extremely successful) bowhunters, I'm gonna test out some Grizzly El Grande 150's ... and maybe some Wensel Woodsmans, too ... mounted on POC woodies, running 500-525 grains, and launched from 47-50# hybrid longbows. The main quarry? Nasty hogs and wiley whitetails.
-------------------- "Molon Labe" (Come and Get Them) ~ Instinctive Archer Magazine ~ TGMM Family of the Bow ~ NRA Life Member Posts: 8858 | From: NJ | Registered: Mar 2003
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Jason, I'm going to have to make the same decision soon. Get a bow a little heavier than I'm used to for a moose hunt this fall. I've always picked the broadheads I shoot for the game I'm after. Once I get my arrows tuned up, I may shoot a big ol' nasty Snuffer for bear and deer, Elk I'll use a Wensel, and the moose I'll have to make up my mind between the Grizley or the STOS. I've never had a problem once I get my arrows dialed in, switching from one broadhead to another. As long as they weigh the same. Just so many choices out there now days! Used to be all I could find at the local hardware store was the good Bear Razorheads. I'd use them today if they were glue on and the original steel....O.L.
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JRW (Jason) that is no drive, just a short putt for you. Crazy that is. Now you know you like Snuffers better than all those heads you named. Give in! Hunt with the best. Snuffers for ever.
-------------------- Ted A. Young AKA COB. When I was young I spoke as child. Now I'm older and got more sense I can't get any one to listen to me! Posts: 1296 | From: Central Ohio | Registered: Mar 2003
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Jason, I would give the WenselWoodsman with 125 gr steel BH adapter in it. (250 gr.)I have shot thought everything for the last 2 yrs with that setup. Deer and Hogs with 49-52# I think they would work on elk. Bob
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I'm with you Bob! I am shooting the WW with an aluminum adapter on some 2020 Legacy arrows now in my turkey hunting bows. I am going to get me some Carbonwoods and try the WW and the 145 Snuffers with the 125 steel adapters.
I am going to get some 4 blade Magnus Stingers to play with too and I may try them on deer, but the head just seems kind of small for elk.
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That is one of my Chek-Mate Hunter II's. Cocobolo riser and yew limbs. Made a lot of meat with that bow a couple years ago. Sweet shooter.
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Bob,
I've got a bunch of Woodsmans. Used them for the last two years, and they've been very good to me. I just can't get over that vented head hissing stuff. You never know, I might end of back with them again this year. The danged things fly GREAT.
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Jason, if the only reason you dislike WW is because of the vents you might want to consider the MA-S after straightening the blades. They are a tad wider than a WW but you can reduce this if you wish. Very strong and easily sharpened. I used them for many years when I hunted groundhogs heavily (when we had groundhogs) and in spite of what you may have heard I have never had a problem getting them sharp because of the way the blades are assembled. Having the weld show up on the edge just hasn't happened with me and I've gone through hundreds over the years.
Half the cost too!
-------------------- Tom Mussatto Posts: 1298 | From: Illinois | Registered: Mar 2003
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It's funny about me and Woodsmans. Every time I think about it someone should probably slap me (no, that's not an offer).
I've put enough deer in the freezer with them that I shouldn't give it a second thought. They're plenty tough, sharpen easier than anything else I've used, fly like nothing else, and penetration's never been close to a problem.
If the hissing doesn't bother the deer, it really shouldn't bother me. Posts: 3746 | From: Northeast Illinois | Registered: Mar 2003
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I seldom use a vented blade so don't know for sure, but I doubt if a slight whistle would make much difference. The WW I tried didn't whistle although I have had a Snuffer sing a little on occasion. I have found the MA-3 to actually be a stronger head than the WW so couple that with the cost factor and it would be a good alternative. I've got a bunch of'em so if you want to give'em a look see let me know and I'll send you a couple altered ones.
-------------------- Tom Mussatto Posts: 1298 | From: Illinois | Registered: Mar 2003
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There are 3 broadheads I like Modocs , thunderbolts, wensel woodsman, now ,today and come hunting season which is thurs..LOL...oh yeah hog ,hog,hog!!!
-------------------- "If you're living your life as if there is no GOD, you had better be right!" Posts: 12162 | From: Baton Rouge , La. | Registered: Mar 2003
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Jason, thanks for the BPE fletching jig info. I have been trying to figure out what broadhead to use as well. It seems hard to find the best of both worlds(bloodtrail & penetration). After reads through several threads on this and "other" bulletin boards I have decided to go with a simmons broadhead. From what people say they cut wide enough hole for good bloodtrails and you still get great penetration. I know this isn't a broadhead you listed but another opinion never hurts...it justs adds to the confusion Rusty
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For me durability is first, penetration is second(ya can't have #2 w/out #1). IME cutting Dia has very little effect, with the exception of impeading penetration.
I suspect than blood on the ground is more important for you back easters than it is here in NM. Still,I would pick the biggest head that would reasonably assure a passthru. However, I concur with Ashby in that, with a bad hit extra penetation will predictably do more good than extra diameter or an extra cutting blade.
I think it is prudent to pick equipment based on a worst case scenario rather than a best case one. Archery hunting being what it is, the worst case will eventually happen.
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