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I found that Mr. Asbell's recommendation of a high-wristed grip worked very well for me before my joints started giving me so much trouble, especially if the bow's shape allowed me to just touch my index fingertip to the tip of my thumb. As my joints have gotten worse and my strength gone with them (hard to work out when you blow your elbow every time) I find it hard to shoot high wrist and now have to "heel" the bow to pull hunting weight bows. It's been a big adjustment for me and my accuracy is still not what I'd like it to be, nowhere near what it was when I shot "Asbell" style--I really think he's right about everything being in line promoting better accuracy
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I say if it works for you , use it ...too much movement foe me ....but if it works for you find...Mark#78
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I use the high wrist Asbell, but draw straight back. can't do the swing arm. But everything else is like he recomends. Even get my bows with the thumb groove lower. When I am really humming,accuracy is amazing. ( at least it is to me)Tedd
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A few days ago I met a nother L.B.-shooter at a local club.He shot with an Asbell kind of style that looked more like dart-throwing.He released often too early and sometimes to late-so the arrows went all over the place.He drow the bow while svinging it up-but drow it to anchor before the arrow was pointed at the target.I shoot with a style that remindes of B. Ferguson´s and I´ve got 70 points more when we compered our resolts an a 60cm fita target.(18m)Now this of course does´nt say that one guru´s style is better than the others,but more about the two of us.Asbel´s book and video are grat and containes loads of importend info about shooting style improvemant.Perhapes the fita target face is not so great for praktice becouse one tend to concentrate on the whole target.I´m going to draw a single red cirkel on a white sheet of paper insted.It should be easier to focus on that.It would be interesting to let gurus like Fred and Byron compete against one a nother.I wonder who would win...
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You want get better, well ya got to kmow what your doing and look like first...video a practice round....mark#78
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I much more prefer Ferguson's method, and his book. I don't gap shoot (or indirectly aim), but I did learn a good bit--the fundamentals are there regardless of how you "aim". (I don't yank it back and shoot either) Ferguson's book is much easier to read, and more entertaining to me. I have no idea how anyone gets to draw on a whitetail using that swing draw--I'd bet he ain't hunted whitetail in MS.
I've seen Mr. Asbells video (one of them at least), and glanced at the books. It was several years ago when I did, but I don't remember seeing the part about shooting from half-draw, etc. (but I didn't really read them either). I did notice in a fairly recent article of TBM that he emphasized a solid, consistent anchor--maybe he's modified his style?
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I've read and watched F. Asbells video. Liked them and use some of his suggestions. I also watched the new BW DVD in Africa. It shows F. Asbell shooting and he shoots a little diff. then he shows in his video. He draws alittle slower and holds a little longer. I guess you use what ever it takes to make it work for you. Nothing is written in stone on how to shoot a bow a certain way.
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I have both of Fred's books and his video. I used his style for years and still do for close quick shots.
However I found to like Dave Bulla that it led me to shoot too fast and turned into target panic. I dropped from 60 lb bows to 50 lb bows and now shoot slower and hit a difinite anchor each shot. Crawling out of the target panic hole is laborsome.
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Mike , Wish I had a Quarter for every time I here that ...I use to shoot heavy bows ....but I do better when I can hold anchor about 3 seconds 56# - 61 is all I shoot...what you said WORKs!..mark#78
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I'am with ya Mike Brown. Have read both books and watched the video, all good info, but not for me. Started shooting way to fast and got TP Now I work on form and holding a solid anchor for a few to get my total focus on the spot, then let her rip. This is the way I used to shoot anyways before reading Asbells books, and shot veary well. Sometimes out shooting my friends who shoot wheelbows. But bad habbits are hard to break, but it is all comming back to me I think I will write a book on how to shoot a bow nice and slow for best control I say just use what works best for you. But mostly work on perfect form everytime ya draw your bow Raven
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just got in from my best round ever , really getting back there now, some 50+ paces. Don't know what kind of aiming I am doing, But I use the high wrist and it does work. I pull straight back. Mostly an instinctive shot, pretty quick realease. But If the shot is not comming around perfectly, I'll hold longer, and see my arrow for left and right, then release. Guess I have shot so much, my brain knows when it is not a perfect instinctive shot and then makes an adjustment. Today was fun. I would not hesitate to shoot at a deer at 40 yds.
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When Mr. Asbell wrote his first book I think it was the first of it's kind. Trying to show a instinctive method. I think it was good for traditional archery. It allowed an opportunity for a acknowledge resurgence in traditional gear. Remember when the first book came out? If memory serves me right it was mid 80's. A lot of folks had switched to compounds. How many trad bowyers were a round then....1/8 of what’s available today. I personally think that Mr. Asbell's first book was a great help to get trad archery on an upward growth path.
Do I like the style that he writes about, no, but there is still some good info in his first writing. The thought of just pointing your finger is a great training aid. I use it to help folks get on target...it works.
I'm sure that we all can think of the negatives, where someone got frustrated with trad archery trying to shoot like Fred, but if you look at Mr. Asbell's impact for trad archery, I'd have to say it's been good.
Just a thought, Bill
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