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RonD
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My problem there may be the fact that I am not bending at the waist to cant the bow. Instead, I am standing straight up and canting the bow. Recent cervical spine surgery has forced me to change my shooting method and I am having to relearn form all over again. The titanium plates that they placed on the vertebrae to straighten a compressed spine limits my movements to some extent. That is the reason I am shooting the way I am and working to improve it everyday. Plus, being 70 years of age, the old body isn't inclined to make compromises. The way I am shooting now as stated in the earlier post has been a tremendous improvement and has helped me increase my draw weight. Everything you have posted on this thread has helped me and I thank you for that, because it has really helped. I will try the bending at the waist to cant the bow and see what happens.
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Ron..if you are standing straight and canting...you could be torquing the string...are you canting your head with the bow?

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RonD
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I realized the other day that I was not canting my head with the bow. I tried what you suggested by bending at the waist and I was hitting high and left. When the rain stops I am going to see what canting the head along with canting the bow in a standing straight position. I really think I will shoot better if I cant the bow. Torquing the string is a definite possibility. Things are getting better with each shooting session and I am finally back to my original draw weight of 46#. Thank you so very much for all of your help in improving my form.
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[thumbsup]

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Great stuff!!!

I'm waiting to receive my first Trad bow since the 80s and can't wait to try to work on proper form.

Much thanks from Shingletown...BEWW

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Wow! I just read all 10 pages of this thread. I haven't even shot one arrow out of my new Wes Wallace Mentor or any trad bow for that matter, and I feel like I have a great starting focus point. Form! I will start 5 yards from the bale, totally focusing on the form clock.. Thanks Terry and all for contributing to this great formative thread. Will order video to help me even more.
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Hello everyone. This thread is going to help me a lot. I am teaching myself to shoot traditional and it is proving challenging to say the least. There is noone locally here in Cairns Australia that I have been able to track down YET who can show me how it's done. Terry, this is awesome information and watching you shoot a bow has me green! Two things (for now): Am I correct in my observation that the bow does not pull straight back into the natural V/web of your bow hand and down through the line of your bow arm? To me it looks like the grip of your bow is pulling back into the base knuckle of your thumb or slightly to the right of the v formed by your thumb+index finger?? This may well be my eyes playing tricks but I am interested.
Also, do you ever ship internationally? I would LOVE the instructional help of your video.
Kind regards and MANY thanks.
Luke

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Thanks guys...yeah...I'll ship the DVD to Australia.

Sorry I didn't see this earlier.

Take care and best to all. [campfire]

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Awesome. Thank you Terry. I'll send you an email to finalise details.
Great!!

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Studying Terry's Form Clock and being inspired by Charlie Lamb's form in his shooting video (Not trying to copy Charlie's form, I'm just inspired by his alignment and release) have improved my shooting considerably.

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This might be long so I'll get to the bottom line so those who don't want to read my story get the jist of it.......
By the dang gum DVD.
I have three hunting bows, a Bear Super Kodiak at 55#, a Bear Take-Down hunter with bolt on limbs at 50# and a Damon Howatt @45#. I have split arrows with all three of them, so the ability (along with luck)is there. I shoot exculisively outdoors almost everyday in all conditions. I won't shoot if the the wind is howling or it is single digit cold. I shoot between thirty and fifty arrows each time out in strings of five.
What I lack is consistincy. I have read alot of articles and books about flinging arrows including this topic's blog from start to finish.
I've tried a lot of different things, including a double anchor and still couldn't get consistent hits on target. Finally I said what the hell and got the DVD.
It taught me a few things and reminded me of things I had forgotten.
One thing that I now know is that accuracy means doing what works.
I tried the double anchor and realized that my hands are too small or face too long to do it in the way that he describes. Then I focused on two other things that he said.
The first is "dragging your hand across your face." Now when I draw I drag the base knuckle of my thumb across my cheek starting at the corner of my mouth all the way back until my middle finger comes to anchor at the corner of my mouth.
The second thing that he said that hit home were the two words, "back tension." I had read before from others about pulling with your back, but it wasn't until I heard those two words together that I was able to put it all together.
Before I thought I was using my back muscles, but I was only using the muscles on one side, but by thinking back tension, I realized what I was doing and corrected it.
Then I brought two things that I learned from my marksmanship training in the Marine Corps. (paraphrase) the most important arrow you will shoot all day is the one you have nocked. And do the exact same thing each and every shot.
Now instead of hitting the target once or twice I am putting three and four shots into a 6 inch square. When I send one flying, instead of thinking of several things I might of done wrong, I can narrow it down to one or two things and correct it right away.
Shooting is fun again

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Thanks Sarge.....great to read posts like this.!!!

Stay after it!!!!

[campfire]

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Hello all. Thank you Terry. I drank the Kool-Aid and it works. I couldn't figure out the clock. I was shooting Hoid at 20. Beyond that inconsistent. But like Sarge said, once I saw the video and heard a few things, it's made a difference. The main thing for me was dragging across the face. I wasn't doing that. But now by dragging across my face my second anchor is repeatable. The best 8 bucks I've spent in a long time. Thanks again

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GREAT!!!

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now how do you know when your shoulders are in line and you drew the bow back enough is there a way to tell?

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