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How do you learn to shoot at longer distance's. I have a 55# recurve with 525gn 3555 GT arrows. I don't want to gap shoot I am new to trad so any help would be great.I can shoot 30yds now, but when I back up to 40 my arrow hitts the ground before it gets there. I shoot 3 under and anchor with my pointer finger, if you need more info please let me know. thanks Mike
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Shooting instinctive at longer distances is the same as short distances "focus on the smallest target you can see" I shoot pop bottle caps past 40yds, maybe you could try that....
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quote:Originally posted by rezeen6.5: I am new to trad
That is the issue.....you have to shoot more at longer distances to get better....you are shooting 'short' because you haven't programed your brain for 40 yards and beyond since you are new.
It wont happen over night....and takes commitment and dedication to learn to shoot instinctive at longer distances.
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While Terry touched upon the central issue of learning to shoot any distance instinctively, perhaps you could use a bit more detail: To shoot any particular distance instinctively, your brain has to learn the arc of the arrow required at that distance. It can only do that with repetitive shooting at that distance, and that can take many hours, days, weeks,or even years. But over time, and with repetition, the brain learns (is programmed, in Terry's words)the arc necessary and will set your bow arm accordingly. One caveat, you have to have vision that is good enough to see the arc of the arrow and its impact point so that the brain can become programmed to that arc at that distance.
You might find G.Fred Asbell's video on "Instinctive Shooting" helpful to get you started on the right track.
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Your already shooting better then me, dont rush it. Terry and Wapiti are spot on with their advice. Until you have shot at that distance, its tough for your brain to "guess" accurately the first few shots. I have read "become the arrow" and watched Byrons videos. He talks about visualising the arc of the arrow. When I shoot at 25yds, I raise my arm and it just feels right, then I draw the bow back focusing on the target the whole time. There is no doubt that if I could see better at that distance, I could shoot better. If you cant focus on the target, your not going to hit it.
Bowsan, bottle caps at 40yds, Im drooling.....
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Make sure your form is rock solid at close range, or distance, (over 30 yards), shooting will be trying at best. Then just listen to what the others have told you....don't expect to hit too many bottle caps at 40 yards though...that's quite a feat!! But it would make a great aimer if you can see it well....good luck
-------------------- John Getz:........... Time flies like an arrow, Fruit flies like bananas. Posts: 543 | From: beavertown, pennsylvania | Registered: Nov 2009
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Another thing I might add. In order to shoot those longer distances, you may want to try the walk back and forth method.. Where shooting 1 arrow at 20 then another at 35 and back to 30 and so on ,for example.. Keep changing distances to train your brain to adjust your bow hand to the different distances.. Like others have said it takes time, but it can be done... And remember "always focus on the smallest target you can see" when shooting instinctive..
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I had a guy shooting here last year, every time he would back up, he would spray arrows all over my large target and punch holes in my garage. I demanded he give me his watch and one of his new arrows. I placed the arrow vertical to one side of center and hung his watch the other side of center, and said "wreck your own stuff, I dare you". Amazing how easy it was for him to hit that watch at 30 yards.
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I mean no offense to Mike or anyone but I would like to make a point about shooting at longer range. I only say this because Mike seems to be a newcomer to trad archery and I don't know his level of experience.
Shooting at inanimate targets at long range is fun but a trad bow is a short range weapon when used for hunting. I and everyone I know will not take a shot at a deer beyond 20 yards. I personally prefer to be closer. The chance of wounding the deer is just too high otherwise. As Mike has already learned, a shot that hits the target at 30 yards may hit nothing but dirt at 40. Hitting the dirt is far better than wounding a deer and having to try to track a poor to non-existant blood trail. Just thought I'd point that out. If you want to have a sobering experience take a laser range finder out to an unfamiliar area and try estimating distances to various objects before ranging them with the laser. We humans are't real good at guessing distances.
John
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Yes Mr. Hansen I would never shoot at a animal at anything over 20yds and do my best to get the animal closer if possible. Thanks for the input. No offence taken. Mike
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Somebody didn't agree or like my post as it's been removed, seems kinda impolite to do such a thing.
Suggesting to shoot Gap on some long shots to fast learn trajectory and then switch back to Instinct after the range has been programed in isn't offensive......or is it?
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Don't worry about the numbers (yardage), just get a "kicker" target like this -
Throw it around the yard and shoot it from different angles. When shooting instinctive, the numbers don't matter. You simply look at a target and "instinctively" aim. Knowing the trajectory of your arrows is simply learned through practice and hundreds of arrows put through the bow.
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quote:Originally posted by AKmud: Don't worry about the numbers (yardage), just get a "kicker" target like this -
Throw it around the yard and shoot it from different angles. When shooting instinctive, the numbers don't matter. You simply look at a target and "instinctively" aim. Knowing the trajectory of your arrows is simply learned through practice and hundreds of arrows put through the bow.
Well said! For my practice I try to do this. And up to ca 25 yards I`m not so occupied with the distance. Inside that area I feel pretty comfortable with my arrows fps etc. And to get your brain "tuned in" you need to shoot a lot of arrows. My technique was that I got comfortable from every distances inside my "killzone" and then I started to increase my distance with ca 10 yards at a time. Finally I was out around 50 yards and could still hit the targets inside a decent group. BUT I will never try to shoot at an animal at that distances without trying to make a recovery shot. (To many errors just waiting to happen.)
I do practice at longer distances just to get comfortable with "recovery shots" and hopefully I never get to use one of them.
The challenge when shooting 3 fingers under and instinctively is that at a certain distance my heavy arrows (650 gn +) will be so heavy that I loose sight of the target because I have to lift my bow high and from there and out I`m lost
Good luck with your training
Margly
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I agree very much. I had a Dan Quillion Patriot in 70# that was a sizzler . . . but something was missing. I never got to see the arrow (and I was flat overbowed at 70#). Not that I look - at least not consciously - but with the "slower" bows of 180 fps or so at least you get the flash of the fletches in transit as it occludes the spot in full focus/concentration. Your brain files that arc away for future reference.
I use a bright nock and fletch. Years ago I made up a batch of beautiful natural barred turkey with black nocks and they looked great. But when released they disappeared. I used 'em up and didn't do that again.
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Get a tennis ball and some judo points keep tossing the ball farther as you hit/come close to it more. Aim small > miss small!!! You brain will eventually get hardwired .........unless you keep switching bows/arrows.
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