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STUMP THUMPER
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Anyone know how to get rid of it?
Didn't have too much trouble with the compound, only once in awhile, since switching to trad I'm having a lot of trouble to hit anchor and hold, to get good back tension.
When I do the shakes start and I pluck the string and throw my bow arm.
Can anyone HELP?
Thanks,
Fred

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ChrisM
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You may need to drop bow weight for a while to get yourself trained.

For me i make sure that i can draw aim and hold and then let down before i start shooting. I must have control of the shot sequence before i let myself shoot.

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read the thread just below this one by clickerman. fantastic thread !!!

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Jason R. Wesbrock
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First question: do you have TP or are you just overbowed? They are two very different things.
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May not really be target panic. If you are not overbowed, you may be reverting to wheel bow habits. Since a compound lets off, it takes less muscle force to hold the bow, so we tend to relax at the back. With a traditional bow, when you stop pulling you will start shaking. Try not to pause too long at your anchor. Don't release from your anchor point, use it as the starting spot for pulling through. Now if I can just remember all this next time.............

If this problem continues, you will develop target panic (really the uncertainty caused by the fear of missing). I had to overcome a very similar problem several years back and it is no fun if it gets to the Target Panic stage.

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knobby
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What BOHO said.
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I tend to be with old vet on this one. But then even a good compound guy never stops pulling.

A back strengthens very quickly. Overbowed is an overused term. If you are drawing with your arm and/or shoulder its really easy to be overbowed. If I wanted to do the work I could go to 80 lbs from 60 lbs in a month as the back is a "slow twitch" muscle group. It developes very quickly like abs.

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ever try a clicker? i use one and it helped me alot with target panic....

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People who have confidence in their shot process and are focused on the process rather than the result DO NOT suffer from target panic… lose focus or confidence and it will crawl out of its box and bite you in the butt.. The way to stuff it back in the box is to change your focus back to the process and become confident in that process…

Professional archers who are winning are not consumed with the score, instead they focus on completing their process perfectly every time, they don’t dwell on a bad shot nor do they change their process because of a bad shot ..

They KNOW that their process will produce a good score if they complete it perfectly.

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quote:
Originally posted by Javi:
People who have confidence in their shot process and are focused on the process rather than the result DO NOT suffer from target panic… lose focus or confidence and it will crawl out of its box and bite you in the butt.. The way to stuff it back in the box is to change your focus back to the process and become confident in that process…

Professional archers who are winning are not consumed with the score, instead they focus on completing their process perfectly every time, they don’t dwell on a bad shot nor do they change their process because of a bad shot ..

They KNOW that their process will produce a good score if they complete it perfectly.


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i want to be this person
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STUMP THUMPER
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Old Vet I've dropped to 35# and am still having the problem so it's not overbowed. I read the comments from clickerman on another thread and he explains the same thing your saying only he call for a second anchor and to keep saying "keep pulling"mantra.
Going back to basic to start over to try to work this out(very frustrating). Shooting blank bale having good results, but when I go to a target or animal(3D)right back to short draw. One problem, with job and other commitments I don't get to practice as often as I would like.
Fatboyz i hear ya.
Thinking about calling clickerman he seems to have the answers.
Anyone ever think about a hypnotist.
Have a new widow coming and I don't want to teach her bad habits

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Kentucky Jeff
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Equipment will not solve this problem. Clickers, new bows, etc are not the answer.

You can find out if you are collapsing on each shot with a form master. A simple tool.

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