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Last I checked this was a Representative Republic, speaking of the U.S.A. that is. Little or nothing to do with a Democracy. However, enough people are viewing the country as a "Democracy" that it is actually being treated as such by both the government and the people.
Yes, the founding fathers would weep, then an old time trip to the wood shed would probably commence
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Freefeet is absolutely correct. People are deluding themselves if they think either one of the two political parties here have the interests of the American people at heart. But what both excel at doing is keeping the American people at one anothers' throats over so-called "wedge issues" that the candidates then use to get themselves elected. Whereupon they then lie, cheat, and steal to their hearts content and serve their corporate masters. When the CEOs of major corporations are basically running our country, we have a government that has abdicated its responsibility of governance.
-------------------- Heads Carolina, Tails California...somewhere greener...somewhere warmer...or something soon to that effect... Posts: 387 | From: Arizona | Registered: Oct 2009
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When the Republicans had total power the Democrats 'appeared' to take the role of the defenders of the people, it got them into power. Now with the democrats in total control the republicans are assuming that role. It is the left right paradigm, oro ab chao, control through chaos. It is understandable that no one can trust anything at face value, it seems that there is an agenda behind everything. Always ask 'why', never let anyone else make your opinions for you, and never be afraid of the facts and truths you will find.
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What wone the hearts of the people of Minn. was when Jesse the Body answered a question by saying "I don't know." The simple truth is to the most extravagant lie as is a 30-06 to squirle hunting. The problem is 95% of elected oficials in DC have forgoten thet they work for us. Until we the voting public bands togather and fires ALL OF THEM they ain't gona listen. It's kinda like working for a boss that can't fire you or being in 3rd grade and the teacher not being able to give detentions, or paddle. Like I said before lets quit crying and takem to the woodshed.
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-------------------- Tolerance is a virtue of a man without any Morals- unknown author Posts: 1003 | From: Scott Depot, WV | Registered: Sep 2007
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It seems our concerns should not be for the republican party; or the democratic party. This is not a football game; we should be concerned with out nation first.
-------------------- THE VOICES HAVEN'T BOTHERED ME SINCE I STARTED POKING THEM WITH A Q-TIP. Posts: 2556 | From: North Fork , Idaho | Registered: Feb 2004
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quote:Originally posted by Brian Krebs: It seems our concerns should not be for the republican party; or the democratic party. This is not a football game; we should be concerned with out nation first.
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to war! to war! we make the cry to do this deed to fight and die. the founding fathers knew there was death in their talk / men women children would die .young and old / torture,desease,famine, ruin. when you speak of war know this is what you say! the step to peace is not thru war!and the cloak of war we shroud ourselves which bears only death for all. can we save this country without the fight ? can peace and freedom be had without the blood ?-- probably for a while but sooner or later war will happen again ! justified by men like jefferson and henry and franklin, lets hope its long time away.
-------------------- i never regretted a day in the woods/ a hippie taught me to hunt Posts: 39 | From: wyoming | Registered: Sep 2009
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The whispers that preceed a war are the sounds of your government saying just let me spend 2 trillion dollars for you to make our economy work. Only problem. Guess who really has to pay that bill. You! Anyone here seen any of that money in your hand? Anyone seen the economy improve? Nope.
The have nots are working hard thru their selected party to take from the hard working haves. Eventually enough people get tired of it and say no. Then the goverment decides it can force you to say yes. each side pushes then pushes back and civil war commences. The second american civil war will most likely be a class war between the haves and have nots. Ugly and vicious, just like the last one.
You want to avoid war? Vote all the time, every time. Do what it takes to get others to vote. Make sure everyone you know votes. Get the people to take back control of their goverment.
Apathy is what kills nations. We the people will get to reap the rewards of complacency and will have to endure the fight that comes. Our country is divide already.
If history repeats itself, and it always does! Then the time to our civil war is very short, unless a lot of people pop their heads out and take control back from the government and give it back to the people.
-------------------- Clay Walker Skill is not born into anyone. It is earned thru hard work and perseverance. Posts: 3246 | From: Vancouver, WA. | Registered: May 2009
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I'll try not to get started, but what keeps reviving this thread is the echo of greatness the founded this country. I think everyone who has posted on here has the same basic ideas with different thoughts of how to get there. Here are mine.
#1 PRAY FOR OUR COUNTRY AND IT'S LEADRES EVEN IF YOU DON"T AGREE WITH THEIR VIEWS. #2 VOTE #3 CALL OR WRITE YOUR SENATORS, AND ELECTED OFFICIALS. #4 DON"T BR AFAID TO BE VOCAL OR RESPECTFULY ENGAGE IN DEBATE #5 TEACH YOUR CHILDREN, GRANDCHILDREN, OR ANY YOUNG PERSON ABOUT THE GREATNESS OF OUR RICH HISTORY. #6 SUPORT OR FIGHTING MEN AND WOMEN AS WELL AS THANK OUR VETERANS.
We the People are still in charge but or grip is slipping rappidly every day. The socialist wing in our government is fighting to not only control the government but also We the People. They would love nothing more than to tax us to the place where we must depend on them for every thing from health care to food and utilities. If you don't believe me them just sit by the way side and watch for the next FEW short years. If they can tell you when and how you are going to go to the doctor then they can tell you when and how you are going to live every aspect of your life.
I ask myself not get started so I'll shut up now.
-------------------- Shoot a Yearl'n... It'll eat better Posts: 327 | From: Near Flint Creek, Oklahoma | Registered: Aug 2006
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quote:Originally posted by Gooserbat: The socialist wing in our government is fighting to not only control the government but also We the People. They would love nothing more than to tax us to the place where we must depend on them for every thing from health care to food and utilities. If you don't believe me them just sit by the way side and watch for the next FEW short years. If they can tell you when and how you are going to go to the doctor then they can tell you when and how you are going to live every aspect of your life.
You should have said, "If you don't believe me just go an look at the UK!"
We've had 12 long years of the socialist scumbags....
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...free your feet, your mind will follow! Posts: 408 | From: UK | Registered: Oct 2008
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Sorry, but if we can afford the Pentagon and Iraq, we can afford health care. I'm not afraid of a government giving me health care. I'm afraid of a government that sees killing people as the solution to every problem. I'd rather money be spent on fellow Americans, and not going into the pockets of the likes of Hamid Karzai.
Americans First. Period.
-------------------- Heads Carolina, Tails California...somewhere greener...somewhere warmer...or something soon to that effect... Posts: 387 | From: Arizona | Registered: Oct 2009
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The health care bill that is coming through is not health care. It is an insurance bill, with the very serious implications that could easily lead to things like forced inoculations and limited care for specific groups. Take a close look at the swine flu hype and all the negative facts about the vaccines. An even larger threat is going on right now, that ties it all together, in Copenhagen, Denmark. While the news releases keep saying that no agreements are being met, google climategate, behind the scenes they are preparing to let the hammer down. The global warming scam is only the tool they are using to force global socialism and global kleptocracy and oligarchy. Are you all saving up to pay your carbon tax to the world bank? Or would you prefer that or politicians start working for us? they have not been for some time.
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You want to know the truth? I don't care anymore. Nobody represents the people anymore. Not the Republicans and not the Democrats. They can do what they want; makes no difference to me either way. I refuse to get involved with any political party. They're all liars and I've met more trustworthy scorpions hiding under rocks. Socialism is a scare tactic used by one side, and global warming is the scare tactic used by the other. All to keep the people busy fighting one another while the politicans of BOTH sides pick their pockets clean.
So, no, I refuse to care about it. I don't care if they pass health care or not. I don't care if they pass cap-and-trade or not. They can't take much more from me than they already have. I lost my job of ten years and no one hires a 43 year old guy when there are plenty of 20 year olds to choose from. They took money out of my pocket and gave it to greedy scum on Wall Street to allegedly "save jobs". Yeah, didn't work so well for me. I'm out the money AND the job. What else are they going to take from me? I can't stop it. They don't listen to the people anymore. I don't have any more money for them to steal, so they're probably done with me anyway.
If you think our politicians are ever going to work for us again, I'll sell you Midgely Bridge down in Sedona. They're are totally bought, totally co-opted. They play these games to make you think they're working for you so you'll vote for them. To what end? Next election, I'll be stumpshooting with my bow.
-------------------- Heads Carolina, Tails California...somewhere greener...somewhere warmer...or something soon to that effect... Posts: 387 | From: Arizona | Registered: Oct 2009
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