Gerald W. Lauber Topeka gerald.lauber@ksoutdoors.com Robert Wilson Pittsburg robert.wilson@ksoutdoors.com Don Budd Kansas City don.budd@ksoutdoors.com Tom Dill Salina tom.dill@ksoutdoors.com Randall Doll Leon randy.doll@ksoutdoors.com Debra Bolton Garden City debra.bolton@ksoutdoors.com Roger Marshall Great Bend roger.marshall@ksoutdoors.com
Please voice your concerns in a professional manner. Let them know your concerns about the changes beeing made.
Unless you have been under a rock, there are more proposed changes coming, xbows during archery season, any caliber center fire for gun season, more non resident tags.
I am a non- resident and love kansas, I do not want to see it go down the tubes, if you feel the same, know is the time to send some emails, make phone calls,ect.
Thanks
Posts: 149 | From: mo | Registered: Nov 2012
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I told Roger Marshall my thoughts and conserns but it has already passed and in effect for the next year I think its crap crosbows in archery season is a big mistake unless handycaped is only exception and any centerfire rifle with a 50grn bulit or biger is a horible mistake as well
Posts: 955 | From: Great Bend Ks | Registered: Feb 2009
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Crossbows are only considered archery equipment by the manufacturers. If it has a stock, and trigger, scope and is held to the shoulder like a rifle, shoots a bolt, how is that considered archey?
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actually the US Government considers xbows archery equipment-it's listed there for tax reasons.
a bolt is just a short arrow-regarding how it is shot, its shot like a xbow.
xbows predate firearms by 1000 plus years.
I am seeing xbows now in leading archery magazines.
it's a bow. really dont understand why you, or anyone has an issue with them in archery seasons.
Posts: 68 | From: Winnipeg Manitoba | Registered: Aug 2010
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Strictly speaking from an observance POV, I've seen the majority of the anti-X-bow postings seem more like the anti-high cap magazine speeches. Or like the rifle hunters that say only muzzle loaders with iron sights and flint lock actions. The analogy continues into infinity, however, it remains snobbish. Thats because we use trad gear because we have the CHOICE to do so. Many people on here seem to take away the choice not to.
Not that I'm totally convinced X-bows are the way to go, don't own one & don't intend to. Does not change that it is still a bow, as are compounds.
If we are going to say no x-bows then whats next? Now compounds, only trad gear? No recurves or take downs? How about only self bows you made?
Frankly, though I've read on other postings here that it's not helping the number of hunters afield, that does not jive with most state DNR agency numbers. I don't care how a person hunts as long as it's ethical towards the animal.
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US Army MP 2000-'08 Posts: 193 | From: OK | Registered: Jul 2012
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The only reason I dont like crossbows in archery season is in my neck of the world is most of the gun Hunters I have talked to are runnin out and buying them up so they can hunt in archery season and all they seem to talk bout is how far out they are able to shoot their deer at 100 yrds and I think we are gonna have a lot of crippled deer cause of this law and the same with the centerfire deal I dont care that they hunt but I know alot wont be ethical about it and it will give all a bad name
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Absolutely! I work with a guy who thinks any bow shot beyond 25yds, trad, wheel or X bow, is unethical. Yet we know that's not the case. Fred Bear took many of his animals at distances wheel bow guys would scoff at. On the other hand, my grandfather thinks all archery hunting is unethical because he used to help on a trad only draw hunt here in OK. Says he saw hundreds of deer at the MCAAP hunt routinely wounded. This is pre/early wheel bow times.
Point is, unethical shots can be made by any hunter regardless of method or distance. It is up to that hunter to determine their personal max effective range.
Personally, I would like to see a special trad only early season in many states.
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dont really see why there should be a specific trad season.
should there then be a specific compound season? then a specific xbow season.
towards 100 yard shots, obviously these guys are clueless.
massive drop-but incidently there were 100 yard shots plus reported by likes of Saxton Pope/Art Young. Read Howard Hill's Hunting the Hard Way to learn about an elk reported to be shot over 100 yards.
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I just sent in mt Kansas Deer application,fortunately the area I hunt does not get alot of pressure during Archery season and I hunt private property. I think this will affect the Eastern part of the state more, where the population is greater. I personally do not believe crossbows should be in Archery seasons. If you choose to hunt with a crossbow hunt during rifle season.
If it has a stock, sights and a trigger, I do not believe it to be a bow. If you wish to extend your range to 60-70 yards and beyond why not just use a rifle? I thought bowhunting was supposed to impose limits, and encourage woodmanship skills.
JMHO, Pat
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TGMM Family of the Bow Posts: 2149 | From: Colorado | Registered: Apr 2005
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Hi I agree with Tater. It has a stock, trigger, safety and scope. It is not a bow! You don't have to draw it in the presence of the animal. You don't have to practice endlessly to be good with it. Shoot it few times to sight it in. Shoot it a few more times to get used to the trigger pull. You don't have to get close to the game. I'm sure they are fun to shoot. So are ARs, 7mm, 870s, .357s, sling shots and muzzle loaders. Xbows and the bulk of the people that like them are OK but leave them in the gun season....Lock, stock and barrel the crossbow has absolutely no place in archery seasons.. Joe
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quote:Originally posted by joe ashton: Hi I agree with Tater. It has a stock, trigger, safety and scope. It is not a bow! You don't have to draw it in the presence of the animal. You don't have to practice endlessly to be good with it. Shoot it few times to sight it in. Shoot it a few more times to get used to the trigger pull. You don't have to get close to the game. I'm sure they are fun to shoot. So are ARs, 7mm, 870s, .357s, sling shots and muzzle loaders. Xbows and the bulk of the people that like them are OK but leave them in the gun season....Lock, stock and barrel the crossbow has absolutely no place in archery seasons.. Joe
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Yes, really. I see them 'sighting them in' at 80, 90, 100 yards. Shooting them off sand bags on a bench rest (try that with a 'real bow'). Cock, lock and load the thing, lean it against a tree and when a deer steps out at 100 yards, range it, take the safety off, lay it across the shooting sticks put the cross hair on the kill spot and pull the trigger...sorry, I don't mean to be hard to get along with....but...not a bow. Joe
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