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LookMomNoSights
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When it comes to staining veneers......what are some of the do's and don't? Well aware the moisture content in any of the woods we use is a crucial factor so I'm thinking water based stains are to be avoided? Should I go with an alcohol based stain? And should I be applying gently with a rag to avoid over saturation?
I have curly maple veneers I'd like to stain.

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monterey
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I stained maple veneers with an oil based stain once and it didn't take long to delam. [Frown]

I did.another with water based which was thoroughly dried before glue up. It's still shooting.

I think alcohol based would be ok too and would dry quicker.

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I've stained some. I did one maple bow with Minwax stain. It felt very waxy afterwards, but as far as I know it's still shooting... although I don't think that guy shot it much. I wouldn't use that stuff again.

I used water based anilines, and it worked ok. I had to wait until it was dry and the lams warped a little, but it didn't seem to be an issue.

On the rest I've used alcohol based aniline dyes without a single issue. Don't worry about saturation. It's alcohol, it evaporates quickly. I use a cotton cloth cut from old t-shirts or socks, get it wet enough to get even coverage. Give the alcohol plenty of time to evaporate, then go over it longways with a clean very stiff bench brush to remove any cloth particles or dye residue.

The last one was curly maple that I put in a one piece recurve, and I mixed up a 'weak' dye, just to tint it the tiniest bit of a light rose color, but more to make the curl really jump out at ya... and paired it with a cocobolo riser. I hated to see that one go.

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How about home made stains such as viniger+steel wool?
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Roy from Pa
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Alcohol based aniline dyes are the way to go. Dry quickly and very easy to touch up if necessary.

https://woodworker.com/alcohol-soluble-brt-yellow-golden-oak-aniline-dye-mssu-845-541.asp?search=aniline%20dye&searchmode=2

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LookMomNoSights
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Alcohol.....I figured so. Thanks for the input and advice so far everyone!
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BrushWolf
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Binghams sells several different colors of dye. I've used mainly the walnut but have others. I mix mine with water but I think alcohol will work also. I usually grind veneer down on the side I want stained. Stain and let dry then finish grinding them to size I worried about warping them. But to date never had an issue with it or delaminates.

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I plan on ordering some dark and regular walnut stains from Bingham to finish a Modoc hickory selfbow. When you've done the dyeing and smoothing, do you use something like a paste wax to seal it as the final step? I've got some Johnson's laying around I was hoping to use.

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Roy from Pa
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You could do that. I seal my wood bows with tung oil. Some use bear grease, true oil, etc.
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