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jcar315
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Wade, Thanks so much for the info. I now have expanded my TD knowledge base by 100%! I am now going to keep my eyes open for a LH A or B riser. Not to be too dumb but are there "special" limbs that came only with the TD?Thank you so much for the education!

John, Two beautiful bows to say the least! The signed one really POPS!

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Wade- Yes,I do keep considering lowering the shelf like Fred's bow,I just can't bring myself to doing it on an all original,no holes riser.Maybe if I find one that is less than perfect I would have it done.Grant Young's riser is similar to Fred's and he says it shoots great.I imagine getting the arrow as close to the bow hand as possible can only help and Lord knows I need all the help I can get.
John(jcar)-Yes,that signed riser really does jump out at you.I like it alot.Really cool to be shooting it and looking down at that signature and just knowing Fred Bear had that riser in his hands.Very special.

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johnnyrazorhead, do you know what the "B" implies that is stamped after your s/n on the B riser? I have the same stamping on my LH A.
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johnnyrazorhead
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Lamont-I don't know for certain what that "B" implies.I got the bow from a former Bear employee in Grayling.If it's blemished I don't see where.I don't know if it was marked that way as a "discount" for Bear employees or if it was blemished in some way.It shoots,works,and looks perfect.I was hoping someone could enlighten me as well.
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Fred shot a lower cut shelf which resembles the older style bows he was accustom to shooting. Many "instinctive" shooters find it easier to get the arrow shaft lower, which is similar to pointing your index finger at an object. He shot my visualizing the flight of the arrow, with the bow canted, eye over the arrow. He shot with the arrow on his finger. This is based on article he wrote for the Bear Newsletter in response to questions about his shooting style.

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d. ward
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John just as you implied I'am pretty darn certin with the notes I've kept over the years on those stamped bows those were discounted price bows is all.That's all the stamp ment on 90% of them I've seen anyhow.
I personaly believe very few bows would have actually been sold stamped or not with damage and surely not with any visible damage.The B Y X 2 + two 2's were all indacaters of a discounted price bow.
I'am sure that Bear Archery nore any other company would want their product out in the market place to hurt someone and end up with a law suit over selling a $59.95 bow.That alone should eliminates the guess work about were the stamped bows damaged or not.Nope I don't think so.
I know some bows that were stamped were the last years stock and some that got stamped had been on consignment in sporting goods stores for a year and had handleing marks on them.
Some were returned to Bear Archery for credit.Some like last years stock at NWA the Bear Archery rep came to the dealer and rather then pay shipping back to Grayling on last years old stock bows they got stamped with b x y 2 2 2's whatever stamp that rep used and sold at a discount price.bd

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Doc-That would make sense.I couldn't imagine Bear selling a defective bow to save someone a couple of bucks either.I cannot find any flaws on the riser at all.
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d. ward
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Yes sir John you got it.I've made notes on dozens of if not more like 100's-ish of stamped bows I've worked on and I've never seen or noted anything wrong with any of the stamped bows what so ever.bd
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Doc -

I have probably told you this before but... When I went through hundreds of Bear invoices at Floyd Eccleston's shop, several of the 1950s invoices were for bows that were stated on the invoice as "SECOND". Not sure what Bear meant by the word "SECOND", but like you I have owned many stamped bows and never seen anything wrong with any of them. I'm certain Bear would never sell a bow that had a potential problem with its functionally, so my guess is that it was designated as a "SECOND" because of a cosmetic issue or it was last year's model or possibly both.

Anyone who had seen an invoice for a Bear "SECOND" bow, might have a different interpertation of the meaning of the word, if they had not had our similar experiences with stamped bows still being perfectly functional.

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Geez...I go to work and you guys post two pages worth of stuff!

Sweeeet!

Bernie

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d. ward
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OK Bernie we posted two pages but few numbers.We got side tracked a little which is easy to do here on TG.
Anyhow here's one for the B list I found today while digging.This one was always kind of special to me.
I did the work in the ealy 1990's maybe 91-93.This is by no means the first B riser I'd worked on but was special none the less.The number is B-2242 and it has a 1959 Kodiak copper coin installed in it.The owner at the time I did the work was and I'am pretty certin he won't mind me using his name fact is I bet he's laughing his ass off at us right now.Yes our good friend and one of the best Al Reader.Al owned the B handle around 90-93 not sure if he still had it or not and I did not make note but I believe its a lefty which would make sence.
At any rate it was special to me because I felt I'd made the grade as a bow refinisher when big Al called looking for the bowdoc I just went hell yeah the king of collecters called me.Double hell yeah.sorry guy's I got carried away when I rememberd working on Al's bow bd PS whoops I forgot restored.

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d. ward
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OK here's another one for the B list and its another one sent to me from Al Reader.B-2200 and again I did not keep notes as to right or lefthanded and or complete restoration or just a repair.bd
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d. ward
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Hey Bernie here's something that could or would really help me out down the road.I know its a pain in the butt already because Wade said these lists involed work and that sucks.
I will be more then happy to help continue our quest of Bear T/D's all I can time aloted.I had to check out a few things first.I'd just hate to get in any trouble with anyone or any of my long time customer or even worse yet ? get the snot beat out of me for posting someone's name on the internet.
As far as if I post the serial numbers and names together.Those names are OK to use because I was once owner of said riser myself or the owner has given me his or her OK.
I actually do own the legal rights to the pics and photo copies of any pics I've taken of bows I've worked on or restored that someone else might use in an add anywhere anytime for anything.I own the pics I've taken(I could beat snot out of that guy and get away with it)However if it were posted something like Joe Smith's riser with pic's and name I may have problemo's when Joe's wife finds out he's holden a B riser she did not know about.
Anywho is there some way you could just make a small mark for the one's I do not list their names with like just a bd or something ? That way when I'am reading the list and see bd or whatever.I will not have to go through these ledgers again.One of my oldest ledgers is just hammerd on and falling apart.
You could provide a great service to me as well as if someone was wondering if the riser had been restored or worked on at anytime they would see the bd or whatever and could contact me anytime for info about the riser ? I know its a pian but it could work out good for everyone ? bd

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whoops I almost forgot B-1154 lower brown bear was missing at the time of restoration.bd
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