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In a sport where most of us will walk miles to find a single barred turkey feather to make our own fletching than buy one from the "compound shop" the Nano price tag is up there. But consider this for a moment
materials: carbon lams and solid carbon riser. what was last price any of us paid for a solid piece of carbon at local hardware store or even Bingham that make our own bows? foam cores? Don't even know where to get that. better yet who else is making this exact composite longbow? Wonder why
R and D. 2 or 3 scrapped projects, dozens of cad drawings. Months of months of leg work to assemble right players.
Business Overhead....advertising costs, packageing, travel. how many of us have flown to Asia a dozen times last year and stayed weeks at a time? Insurance?
But why overseas? please call ABS collect and give then the number of a company you know in the states that can manufacture an all Carbon bow...
maybe there is a dollar or two left to pay yourself and your wife a salary .
how many of us have started a bow company up from the ground? I tried once out of garage in Newnan Ga.....short lived.
-------------------- Aim down your arrow because thats where it's going. Posts: 1973 | From: 294 Hwy 7 South, Oxford Ms 38655 | Registered: Aug 2003
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I had to buy a carbon liner to go under my insole of my shoe(arthritis). For just one shoe it was $87. Some of the best money I ever spent!!!
Posts: 65 | From: Oregon | Registered: Jul 2006
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quote:Originally posted by joebuck: carbon lams and solid carbon riser. what was last price any of us paid for a solid piece of carbon at local hardware store or even Bingham that make our own bows?
Excellent point. Where would one order such a riser blank?
Posts: 195 | From: Fairbanks Alaska | Registered: Nov 2008
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Bill, with all due respect and to make a point, you were not buying a piece of carbon material, you were buying a finished insole probably manufactured overseas by people again working for wages that you and I would starve here on. It was then imported and marked up to yet another ridiculous price. Would it not have still been some of the best money you ever spent had it been more reasonably priced? Joey, I am sure you would agree that there are a number of custom bowyers here who have experience incorporating carbon into their bow designs. Is it not entirely possible that the reason no one has attempted here or out-sourced the manufacture of an all carbon bow before was that they did not believe such a bow would offer any real advantage in weight, shooting characteristics or performance? This seems to me to be exactly what chronograph tests and bow specs that A.B.S. uses in their own advertising proves.
Posts: 826 | From: Louisiana | Registered: Feb 2007
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Let's arrange a lynching for every bowyer whose advertisements we don't agree with. That would be quite some line! I see advertisements all the time from bowyers who claim fast bow speeds, quiet bows, smooth drawing, no hand-shock, etc that I would take exception with. Those who think too much money is being charged for the product have no knowledge of how businesses operate. A lot of time and effort has gone into the development of this bow and those costs need to be recouped. Some would like to have us think that starving, half-naked 7 year old kids are chained in a Korean factory making these bows for 5 cents a day wages. I'm quite happy with my ACS bows made in the good ole US of A but would have no issues whatsoever trying the ABS bow. By the way, ABS donated a bow, half-dozen grizzly stick arrows, and a half-dozen of their over-priced broadheads to the Pope and Young convention auction last weekend.
Posts: 247 | From: Iowa | Registered: Jan 2004
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Thanks all for the additional specs on this bow. It's disappointing it's both heavier and slower, on top of costing twice as much as a high end production recurve. Well, the pictures look nice, anyway.
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Jim, I beg to differ. It was a carbon plate that he cut to the shape of my foot with a jig saw. I do not know where it was manufactured.
Posts: 65 | From: Oregon | Registered: Jul 2006
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Bill, I apologize and stand corrected, I should have thought before I assumed anything concerning your foot care.
Posts: 826 | From: Louisiana | Registered: Feb 2007
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So basically what I'm getting is that because this bow is made of super materials and there was much R and D, that justifies the price ? For me Function rules over anything else, so the question for me is 1,500, is it going to enable me to shoot better than any of my other bows that at best cost half as much. And I mean significantly better not just a little better.
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Very interesting, but I think not for me. I love the look of fine wood too much.
-------------------- Having done so much, with so little, for so long, I can now do anything with nothing. Posts: 481 | From: Mississippi | Registered: Jan 2011
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I never thought this thread would turn into a justification of the bow's existence or not. Should they have made it or shouldn't they? Does it cost too much or not?
Posts: 6 | From: Saskatchewan | Registered: Apr 2008
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I think what we are trying to say is simple, a bow that expensive should live up to it's hype. No one questions whether it should be made or not.
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No it can't be the LW, if it was, there would be a lot more name calling and swearing. This is just a healthy discussion.
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