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DanielB89
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Does anyone know some where to possibly find an original LW assault? I have been searching for one and can't find one.


I have read some great things about then, any input from you guys?

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What changed on those stands? I have an original Alpha Hang On and I don't see any difference between the new Alpha Hang On II and my old one (despite the cushion foam of the seat).
I checked the Alpha Assault II and there is no difference than I can see between the "old" and the new. At least none that matters (like brown or black anodized frame post).
Different between these is platform size and I think they renamed them because they added the Assault climber a while back. So the Assault will have the smaller platform, the alpha has the larger platform no matter if climber or hang on.
Unless you carry your stands really deep like for miles, I would rather have the larger platform. More sideways stability against trees in comparison to the narrower back. If you hunt public land, it will be an take in and take out every time scenario. Too many thieves nowadays all over the place.

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I no longer have an "old" Assault. Don't think the friend I traded it to (for an Alpha) would want to part with it.

Regardless, I agree with tecum- No significant differences between the new and the old. In fact, if you go older, but not real old, you may end up with one made in China, which apparently were not as well made.

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I use one about everyday from Oct-Feb. Not a real comfortable stand, but very compact, light and nothing to get in the way of a traditional bow. I've outfitted mine with a wicked tough tree saw, lone wolf climbing strap, and very small pack. It is a great little stand and is much more compact than anything else I've seen or tried.
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pm sent https://neworleans.craigslist.org/search/sga?query=lone+wolf
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There are a few modifications I made on this ORIGINAL LW. But notice the platform. This is the ORIGINAL.

LW then came out with the Alpha, then followed by the Assault- which was really a re-working of this ORIGINAL. My son still has his ORIGINAL.

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The difference between the older Assault and the current one is the older ones are about 3 lbs lighter and the platform is a bit longer (seat is also smaller). I found one brand new still in the box on the auction site but it took me several months of looking and cost me more than a new model. There seems to be a pretty big demand for them. Mine is a bit newer than the one Dan posted and has the platform leveling feature.
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quote:
Originally posted by DarkTimber:
The difference between the older Assault and the current one is the older ones are about 3 lbs lighter and the platform is a bit longer (seat is also smaller). I found one brand new still in the box on the auction site but it took me several months of looking and cost me more than a new model. There seems to be a pretty big demand for them. Mine is a bit newer than the one Dan posted and has the platform leveling feature.

So there is hope for me! lol. I am wanting to find me a super light "run and gun" stand.

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If I recall correctly Daniel, there were some stands out there that were lighter than the LW Assault but they were also very small, like the Chippewa Ghost.

Didn't you just buy a saddle setup? If so, you don't need no stinking stand! You already have the lightest run and gun setup made... [Big Grin]

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I have an assault, must be a “new” one at like 10 years old? Anyway it’s awesome and I use it more than anything and I almost never sit the same tree. I can literally hang it and take it down in the dark with my eyes closed. Sticks nest in and I made some saddle bags and added a molle belt to carry my stuff. It’s my “go to” and very light and versatile.
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I have two that I bought from Andre when LW was still in Milwaukee, about '04 or '05. Not sure if that makes them originals or not. I use them every year. They hang from mid-Aug. to mid-Dec.
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quote:
Originally posted by Jasper2:
If I recall correctly Daniel, there were some stands out there that were lighter than the LW Assault but they were also very small, like the Chippewa Ghost.

Didn't you just buy a saddle setup? If so, you don't need no stinking stand! You already have the lightest run and gun setup made... [Big Grin]

I did just get me a saddle, but, there is a major challenge with the saddle being so close to the tree with a tradbow in hand. I am looking to moving to a platform. The saddle made me try to drop weight in every area of the hunt. I ended up cutting down my 32" stick to 24" which maximized efficiency and made about a #5 weight cut off my total weight of the sticks, which brought the weight to around #8.5. With those 4 sticks and an aider, I can easily get to 22'. That's with no stretched steps.

If I can find me a light stand(sub #10), I don't know that i'll touch the saddle anymore. The saddle is it's own animal. I like it, but there are certain aspects I don't like.

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Daniel, I agree the saddle is it's own animal and there is definitely a learning curve. I learn something every time that I saddle up and have overcome several issues myself but interestingly, I haven't noticed the main problem that you mention. So your problem is being able to actually make the shot from the saddle?

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A lot has to do to what weight a stand is rated to, too. All new lone wolfs are rated to 350#. If there wouldn't be a reason they would use less material as the weight of aluminum will play directly into the manufacturing cost. I bet that old stand from KSdan was only rated to #250. I can well see why they discontinued the original design. Distorsion of the platform is a bigger problem with this straight design. All alphas have a beefed up cross section around the connections of the longitudinal and cross bars. They also added the integrated leveling system in comparison to the one shown on KSdan stand.
3# pounds is a good bit of more material and one can only understand what they changed by measuring all dimensions exactly.
This one is #10, but probably hollow tube design:
https://x-stand.com/product/x-pedition/

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Great insights tecum. . . Makes sense.

Daniel and I were visiting on the phone about all of this. I have sense retired my original LW. I have found a few different stands including the Muddy Vantage Point, and another I modified myself from an older Loggy Bayou Predator (pre-curser to Muddy I believe). These are 13# but they provide up to a full 4-6" more of platform length which allows me to shoot my trad behind the tree. And as I told Daniel- I actually modify my stands to include an actual full backpack hip belt and shoulder straps. The hip belt is actually mounted with aluminum stays directly onto the stand. This means I truly do not even recognize the extra 3# PLUS I use the stand as a backpack frame to haul out deer quarters. It really works well. I had a load last winter of 130#. It worked great for this 57 yr old!

Dan in KS

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