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joe skipp
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Guess we lost the battle...

http://www.sportsmenslink.org/the-media-room/news/new-york-crossbow-use-approved-for-hunting

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The 150 feet setback law is a great thing. Crossbows, no good. I saw 1st hand last year the attraction the hold to poachers. I knew it was just a matter of time.
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Cold Weather
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well this is good news but didnt go far enough. xbows belong the entire archery season not just 14 days but at least its a foothold.

towards poachers-they dont obey laws. I know of poachers who have used compounds.

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Glad to see that it is not allowed where I hunt

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They legalized them here (TX) a couple years ago. It seems like EVERYONE was against it, but the manufacturers got it pushed through. I don't care if guys hunt with them. I just hate seeing them in an archery only season. I guess it helps the shops make a little bit more $$$ in sales, but it sure does not seem like ARCHERY to me!

I have always said that the only reason they are not called crossguns is because guns were not invented when these were and they had to call them something!

Bisch

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I'm in favor of Cross Guns,having their own seasons except for handicapped people.

The thing that gets me is they keep referring to people using them as sportsmen. Although some maybe, I think the majority will be anything but.

Since they will have their own season most of the "sportsmen" will choose the rifle.

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Cold Weather
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gotta ask, since you support xbows in an archery season for handicapped, would you support firearms in an archery season for the handicapped as well?

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......sad day for bowhunters....... [dunno]

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quote:
Originally posted by Cold Weather:
gotta ask, since you support xbows in an archery season for handicapped, would you support firearms in an archery season for the handicapped as well?

...maybe... [Wink] [Razz]

I think Ron said it best... It's a sad day for Bowhunters.

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This is unfortunate. It's been said that it is a ploy to try to get back some votes from hunters after the SAFE Act was passed. In other words, buying votes.

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No one under 14 can use a crossbow
Not legal in Suffolk or Westchester Counties
DEC DOES NOT have Regulatory Authority over the crossbow. No further expansion unless through legislation.
Crossbows legal for small game
Crossbows legal last 14 days of SZ archery
Crossbows legal last 10 days of NZ archery
Crossbows legal during Regular (Firearms) season and through last archery/muzzleloader season
Crossbow users must purchase a MZ tag
Safety for new hunters is taught during the regular Sportsmen's Ed class, not the archery class.
Archery setback at 150'
Crossbow setback at 250'

Nothing to do about the crossbow, EVERYTHING to do about the SAFE Act. The Governor, the Republican Leadership and the Independent Democratic Council think that by including the crossbow in the archery season, this will make the firearms owners of NYS forget about their involvement with the passage of the SAFE Act.

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quote:
Originally posted by ron w:
......sad day for bowhunters....... [dunno]

Why is it a sad day, no one took anything away from bowhunters? You can still go out and hunt just like you have always hunted, they have not made it illegal for you to carry your bow.
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quote:
Originally posted by Cyclic-Rivers:
I'm in favor of Cross Guns,having their own seasons except for handicapped people.

The thing that gets me is they keep referring to people using them as sportsmen. Although some maybe, I think the majority will be anything but.

Since they will have their own season most of the "sportsmen" will choose the rifle.

If you give crossbows their own season, they would probably take days away from the bow season,I would much rather them be in a bow season than to loose days to a new season.

You should also not categorize most of the people that hunt with a crossbow as unsporting, you are being an elitist if you think that because you use a tradbow you are more of a so called sportsman. Grow up and quit looking down on people's legal weapon of choice. I know more people who think that my recurve is an unethical way to shoot a deer than the use of a crossbow. We are probably the largest minority in all of deer hunting it would probably be easier to outlaw our weapons than crossbows.

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Is it true everyone gets a trophy and certificate now for participating in the bow season? I thought I heard that somewhere.....

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Steve, I apologize that I overgeneralized potential crossgun shooters.

I'm Not being an elitist. I have no issues with Compound bows and do not look down on people for their use.

The issue I have with allowing Cross guns into Archery season is, It's a slippery slope.

Next, we will have arrow shooting air rifles. They already exist. Its the next step.

Our hard fought seasons were made long for a reason. Killing deer with Archery equipment is a challenge.

I think we need to draw a line in the sand.

Technology will be the demise of Bowhunting and the lengthy seasons. In time we will find shorter seasons because accuracy will extend past 40 yards.


Why should people let devices that are not Bows be allowed to crowd seasons? Lets Face it, Cross Guns shoot things that look like little arrows but they are "Darts". Devices that hold the string back have always been illegal without a permit.

I am not against the use of the Cross Gun, just do not believe it should be used during archery season.

I am for the preservation of Bowhunting, and for bowhunters to hold themselves to a higher standard of Ethical Conduct while in the field, not only to game pursued, but to others encountered and the land they hunt.

I do not put the people standing in line to buy their new bow, the day before season opener in this category. And yes it applies to all "sportsman" and all weapons not just the cross gun. However, anytime an Item comes out to make hunting "easier" It attracts the same people I will not associate myself with even if they call themselves a "sportsman" by their permit bought right.

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