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Uncle Buck
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I just watched a short video from the SHOT show put out by the Benjamin air rifle people. They are introducing a gun that uses compressed air to shoot an arrow 450fps. Now that crossbows have become widely accepted , who knows where this will end?
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I saw a video of Jim Shockey shooting a buffalo with one. He says in the video "this is a game changer for the archery world!". It's getting out of control. Herd your buck towards your pile of Dirt Nap with your drone. Ready yourself from a 100 yards away with your airbow, with a mounted scope and shoot. This has nothing to do with introducing more people to hunting, it's solely about money. Will these archery shops ever say enough is enough.
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Al Dente
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Been saying it for years. The AirBow by Benjamin is, according to its' marketing manager, meant to introduce firearms users to archery. Ha!

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quote:
Originally posted by Al Dente:
Been saying it for years. The AirBow by Benjamin is, according to its' marketing manager, meant to introduce firearms users to archery. Ha!

You don't think your governor would ever allow these things in archery season, do you Al?

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Excuse my sarcasm Al [bigsmyl]

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Al Dente
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I know Ron. He has his finger on the pulse of the sportsmen of NYS.

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quote:
Originally posted by Al Dente:
I know Ron. He has his finger on the pulse of the sportsmen of NYS.

I thought it was that he has his hand in the pocket of NYS sportsman!

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Al Dente
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He wants transparency yet he shut down his own investigation into corruption. Just pathetic.

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If he had his hand on my pulse right now he would know how mad I am!!!!

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Since I've only shooting the bow for the past 23 yrs, (will be 50+ 10% this year) let me ask a question.

When compounds first arrived on the archery scene was there all this craziness I see with no one wanting them in bow season?
Did those who I'll call (including myself) traditional archers want wheelies in a separate season from them thinking all guns hunters were going out to buy wheelies to use because of the ease of use with sights and speed of arrows?

It's apparent to me that no one wants anything that's not theirs no matter what in life just like PETA's fight's drooling with craziness what they want even though they have a right not to do what they don't want to, but no right to impose their beliefs on me. Their craziness is permitted with almost no punishment given with throwing paint on a women in a $1k+ fur other than maybe a slap on the wrist. I saw the same with crossbows recently. A weapon that's has obviously evolved but never the less way more traditional than wheelies. Common sense won in most places I know and was put in a late season.
I mean come on how many gun hunters have you've guys actually recently seen go out and get a crossbow to hunt after they were permitted to be used.

I cannot name one strictly gun hunter I know who went out to buy a crossbow to hunt more.

Let anyone who wants to hunt and pay a license fee enjoy the outdoors and hunt with their choice of weapon. But for the safety of all in the woods just put it a late season as ours here with crossbow.
Very simple solution.

No anger, no hostility no craziness. Hunters getting along with hunters. Divide us we get conquered.

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I lived in northern Michigan in the early 80's and it was a common sight to see gun hunters drive up from the cities and head to the local K mart. There they would buy a Bear whitetail hunter compound, 3 arrows and an archery license, just to give this Bow hunting thing a try. Nowadays. I live in Georgia and I have seen 2 gun hunters buy a crossbow, because it was easier than a real bow. The Benjamin airbow only take two fingers to cock. If its allowed in archery season the lazy will flock to it.
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Jim,

You make some good points. Did you know that crossbows are legal to use in archery season in both the northern and southern zones on NY?

And if they are "way more traditional than wheelies" why do you need a muzzleloader tag and not an archery tag to use them? And no bowhunting education course?

Ron

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Hi Ron,
What I meant by more traditional than a compound is the crossbow has been around since at least 500-700BCE.
Being a NY'er I am aware You can hunt the seasons you mentioned.
As for needing a muzzleloader tag you are correct. IMO a battle won by the NY Bowhunters that a crossbow it is not considered a 100% form of a bow.
Yes no additional classroom training other that you are required on the NYS DEC website site to read the rules, watch a video, print and sign a card stating you have done so and carry it with you.

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Bowhunters should have fought to define archery equipment restrictions years ago. This weapon or the crossgun would never even be considered archery equipment if we would have taken a stand....shame on us as bowhunters!

Ron

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Boy Ron, you are right on!

Society, humans, seem to eventually except most everything now.

Brother in arms? Discriminate? Who's rights?

All for one and one for all. HMMM

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