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Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: Arrowcraft on December 27, 2015, 11:16:00 AM
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looking for way to quite recurve bow even more.I have big wool ball string silencers and the bow is quite but does any one have any other methods of silencing limbs even more with out compromising the beauty of chechen flame limbs ?
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A heavier arrow tends to quiet things down.
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Good shooting form also helps. Smooth releases, gripping the bow and string without torquing, and good weight distribution among string fingers all help to reduce noise.
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I believe a rubber tip protector helps absorb some vibration.
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First of all.... Have you tried adjusting the brace height up or down? That is the first thing you need to do is find the sweet spot where the tension on the string is highest.... a lot of archers do not realize that you can get too much bend in your limbs by getting your brace too high and the noise and vibration becomes worse....
Secondly.... type of string material, and strand count can be a huge factor. the difference between a 12 strand D 97 string, & a 12 strand Rhino string is night and day. The tone pitch on the D 97 is much higher.... The 450+ is another soft feeling low tone pitch string, but the soft nature of that material effects longevity....
Once you've tried those two things, and if you still have noise issues. You can try wrapping the top 4" of the string where it comes in contact with the limb around the curl with yarn. Or some guys put a small piece of mole skin on the limbs themselves in that area if they have string slap noise.
Also i'll echo what Ron said above about using a heavier shaft. Heavy shafts are always quieter.
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Yarn wrapping the string loops, bow quiver, good string, heavy arrows.
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I wrapped my top and bottom portion of my string where it contacts the limb with wool yarn and it helped a lot. Check out Terry Greens Bow Hush site on here. They have a special setup for recurves.
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They just type faster than me!!! LOL
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Changing strings worked for me when nothing else would....at least that I could figure. It can be tough sometimes of you have a budget that makes buying different arrow weights or strings an issue. I'm not an extreme tinkerer so quiet enough works for me. Also the sound you hear may be different down range.
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stiktammers from Three River really work
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X2 what Kirkll said
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X3 what Kirkll said. Brace height changes have crept up on me unaware and additional noise is my first reminder.
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Bow Hush on string loops and Hush Puppies on the string. I have found you can get by with half the amount of Hush Puppy that is provided, allowing you to do twice as many strings. I also trim them down so they make nice neat, small/compact puff balls rather than the large ones. I put the puff balls at the 1/4 marks on the string and I put String Leaches at the 1/3 marks. Then I shoot a relatively heavy arrow and find the sweet spot with my brace height. Bow is almost dead quiet, just a slight dull thud.
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Bow Hush with out a doubt! It works!!
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Bow hush and puppies. At the quarter from top and at the third on bottom.
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Originally posted by 4dogs:
Bow hush and puppies. At the quarter from top and at the third on bottom.
This is a good point that a lot of guys miss is offsetting your string silencers. It helps slow the string oscillation quicker.
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In my experience, tuning can make a huge difference. Nock fit is often overlooked, as is silencer placement. A clean release is quieter, as is a heavier arrow.
With strings...generally how the string is made makes more difference than the material, although some materials can be quieter on some bows. I've had customers tell me that a Dynaflight '97 string made their recurve as quiet as any longbow they had shot. I got regular comments about how quiet my (deflex/reflex longbow) was with a Dynaflight '97 string on it. Used properly, it's not a noisy material at all. Often people confuse pitch and volume--we tend to think a higher pitch is "louder" when it isn't. If I remember correctly, a low pitch travels further.
You have 3 basic types of material. Polyester (B-50 and B-55), HMPE (Dynaflight '97, 8125, 8190 Universal, 8190F, Fury, etc.) and HMPE blends (450+, 452X, BCY-X).
The most recognized brand name of HMPE in the string material market is Dyneema, which comes in different grades. The most widely used is SK75 (Dynaflight '97, 8125G, 450+, 452X) and SK90 (8190 Universal, 8190F, BCY-X).
In my experience, the absolute quietest materials are the Dyneema/Vectran blends, but not by a huge margin.
450+ has a big percentage of Vectran in it (30%), which is a brittle material so it fuzzes up faster and isn't as durable.
My personal favorite is BCY-X which is only 17% Vectran with the highest grade Dyneema currently available. 18-20 strands works great. Quiet, stable, consistent, durable.
Again though, generally speaking and when using the better materials there's not usually a big difference in noise.
For me, tuning is probably the #1 factor. That includes silencer placement. Then an arrow that weighs at least 8 or 9 gpp, and a clean release.
Chad
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Shooting glove. Different shooting gloves or tabs have different noise levels.
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I'm using fleece-silencers.
They are easy to install and work really good
If they are wet only one shot and the silencer is dry again. :D
Also a various range of collors is available!
On my Bezaleel Cougar and real McCoy you can only hear a dull WUB...not realy a noise. :-)
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Andy