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Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: DanielB89 on February 18, 2016, 01:10:00 PM
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I am just curious as to why more people do not film their hunts..?
EVERYONE loves to watch the hunting videos, but so few people film.
Help me out guys, all you fellas who kill deer annually on your own land, at least film it for me! :bigsmyl: :bigsmyl: :bigsmyl:
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I know a pro video guy for one of the top outdoor/hunting/reality TV families in our day. He professionally filmed many hunts. He also tried filming his own hunts. He gave up filming his own and encouraged me to NOT do it. Why? He tells me he lost opps and even blew shots trying to hunt and film. He is convinced I would be utterly frustrated trying to do both. His advice: Hunt OR film. Don't try both at the same time.
Dan in KS
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I just bought a Spypoint excel stream camera to try videoing my turkey hunt this year. I will not try to video myself. I will have my wife or hunting buddy with me in the blind. Ken
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Daniel, you go halves with me on a GoPro and I will film all day long for you brother :) !!
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I'm interested in hunting/shooting not filming. My buddy who likes to film spends more time fooling with his filming gear. He kills a lot less then others that's for sure.
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Originally posted by BuckeyeGuy:
Daniel, you go halves with me on a GoPro and I will film all day long for you brother :) !!
well, I don't like GoPro footage.. lol. You can get a better filming camera than a GoPro for WAY less.
I can agree to KSDans points, though. But when everything does work out, it is pretty awesome! To someone who hunts bait, there is no reason to! ;)
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Agreed on that one! GoPro videos do seem off with depth perception. Might help if guys who do it to list make/models for their equipment.
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I like taking video. I like hunting too. But as I enjoy both, I have would have no qualms about being the camera guy on a big hunt. I think that getting a small game license and toting my bow, but focusing on video footage, would be a great way to spend time in the woods with friends. I've only made one "movie", but it was a hoot. And a great way to preserve memories.
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Originally posted by BuckeyeGuy:
Agreed on that one! GoPro videos do seem off with depth perception. Might help if guys who do it to list make/models for their equipment.
right. I have a couple videos on youtube. 1 is a coyote kill, the other is a white tail MISS... OUCH!!!
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plausible deniability....LoL ;) I'm cheap and lazy really.
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They have a show called Solo Hunter where all the guys self film everything. They miss a lot of opportunities but when it happens you can tell it is rewarding. Of course they are sponsored to do this so there is some extra motivation.
I know when I filmed this year, after getting 2 does early and being regulated to bucks only, it was cool getting some footage of the does that came near. Almost as exciting as trying to shoot them.
On our Beouf WMA Hog Hunt it would have been cool to follow someone with a camera and see if we could have laid down some footage. One problem - we like to hunt too much! :D
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Maybe I'm weird but I always felt hunting was a very personal thing. Especially the kill. For me it would take that away.
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I'm with you bear bowman.
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Originally posted by sswv:
I'm with you bear bowman.
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bear bowman x3
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I have a hard enough time just hunting and getting a shot.......I don't have the ability to multi task ........... :biglaugh:
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Too much effort? like to keep it simple for me. I dont think I have taken a picture of a animal I have killed in 15 yrs LOL! I love to look at pics and folks videos though.
J
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Originally posted by ron w:
I have a hard enough time just hunting and getting a shot.......I don't have the ability to multi task ........... :knothead:
It was before I switched to Trad and ultimately it is what helped me to make the switch to something more simple.....
Do I like watching peoples hunts, you bet I do, but it just isn't for me....
Besides, I carry enough crap into the woods as it is :knothead:
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Because self filming hunts is a PITA!!!!!!
Bisch
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It is interesting I enjoy filming but don't really enjoy being filmed. Kind of like bear bowman said.
I have had a few hunts filmed and I do enjoy reliving them that way. Its just not something I go out of my way to do.
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I want to simplify and enjoy the hunt....not carry a bunch more extra crap. Does not appeal to me.
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Daniel, I use my tactacam all the time. Great little camera IMHO. It has never cost me a shot bc if I can't get the camera on in time or whatever I shoot anyways! I missed one deer this year and made a bad shot on another. That footage got deleted pronto!!! Lol
I also shot a 250ish lb boar at 4 yrds but the camera only picked up the sound. it was a bad angle and it was to dark.
It can be frustrating at times but it can be fun too. At least for me anyways.
Ps.. I have footage of "counting coup" on an armadillo when I was hunting with you in La. Got to about 2 yrds and poked him in the butt with a field tip! Lol
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I take photos and video with my phone during the hunt. But feel I may have an opportunity for a shot I wouldn't try and film because that be extra movement that I don't wanna have to worry about.
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I find that either I am photographing or I am hunting. Photos are nice to look at later, but in the moment, there is a camera between you and living the experience.
I find kill videos can be somewhat educational, but they strike me as being snuff films. Something is happening that to me, is sacred, between me, the animal and God. To film that is akin to filming losing my virginity, the death of my father, or a birth. I know, lots of people have filmed births. I just can't see that. I am an old crustacian.
Killdeer
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I take hundreds of film pics of song birds and humming birds every year, humming birds can sing. They also have a tendency to poop on my camera lens when I am taking pictures from straight under the humming bird feeders in my yard. I am never very impressed when someone takes a picture with me in it. I can almost feel the strain that the camera had gone through.
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I pack a handicam along sometimes and have gotten some nice wildlife footage, but like many here I have no interest in filming my kills.
Sorry, but for me shooting a big game animal is a heavy moment, and nobody has any business being there with me. Besides, watching me would be anticlimactic after watching hunting shows....I don't jump around, hyperventilate, cry, or yell "That's what I'm talkin' 'bout!" while doing the fist pump after shooting something. I generally just hang my bow up on a limb and put my hands in my pockets 'till its time to track.
R
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I've tried it. I just set up a small HD Camera on a clamp that is used on windows for spotting scopes.
I have never filmed a shot, for various reasons. I'm not going to sacrifice the shot for the camera. So, the camera isn't on yet or pointed in the right direction. I do think it would be neat to get a shot on film though.
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I take camp pictures, and landscape pictures, pictures of plants and critters, even hero pictures of the critter after it's dead, but not video of me killing critters. Killing an animal is a very personal experience, and not something I feel comfortable filming or "sharing."
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Bear bowman x4.
I don't take or share 'kill pictures' either. Heck, I don't even tell folks when I kill something. Why would I?
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Originally posted by Killdeer:
I find that either I am photographing or I am hunting. Photos are nice to look at later, but in the moment, there is a camera between you and living the experience.
I find kill videos can be somewhat educational, but they strike me as being snuff films. Something is happening that to me, is sacred, between me, the animal and God. To film that is akin to filming losing my virginity, the death of my father, or a birth. I know, lots of people have filmed births. I just can't see that. I am an old crustacian.
Killdeer
Killy, you took the words right out of my mouth. I feel the same way. Some thing's are best experienced in their purest form. I respect those who do it because it's very difficult but too me trying to do two things at once detracts from the pure experience I seek.
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Originally posted by Killdeer:
I find that either I am photographing or I am hunting. Photos are nice to look at later, but in the moment, there is a camera between you and living the experience.
I find kill videos can be somewhat educational, but they strike me as being snuff films. Something is happening that to me, is sacred, between me, the animal and God. To film that is akin to filming losing my virginity, the death of my father, or a birth. I know, lots of people have filmed births. I just can't see that. I am an old crustacian.
Killdeer
Killy, you took the words right out of my mouth. I feel the same way. Some thing's are best experienced in their purest form. I respect those who do it because it's very difficult but too me trying to do two things at once detracts from the pure experience I seek.
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Originally posted by ozy clint:
Originally posted by Killdeer:
I find that either I am photographing or I am hunting. Photos are nice to look at later, but in the moment, there is a camera between you and living the experience.
I find kill videos can be somewhat educational, but they strike me as being snuff films. Something is happening that to me, is sacred, between me, the animal and God. To film that is akin to filming losing my virginity, the death of my father, or a birth. I know, lots of people have filmed births. I just can't see that. I am an old crustacian.
Killdeer
Killy, you took the words right out of my mouth. I feel the same way. Some thing's are best experienced in their purest form. I respect those who do it because it's very difficult but too me trying to do two things at once detracts from the pure experience I seek. [/b]
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I'm just not interested. I am there for me, not to show the world.
CHuckC
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Normally I wouldn't mess with self filming. My time in the woods(both by myself and with my kids)has become to short and precious to risk wasting opportunities trying to film.
Notice I said normally.
My buddy talked me into trying something this year. Since I was hunting bait, I used my trail cam to video the hunt. When I went in for the evening sit,I switched the camera to take 60 sec videos with 5 second delay between triggers.
I'll be darned if it didn't work. Not the best quality video, but good enough to see where the arrow enters. No hassle, and no distraction in the tree.
If I knew how, I'd load it up for you guys to check out.
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I'm a meat hunter. Sure, it's more exciting than shopping at Safeway, but should I film myself picking a roast up out of the freezer?
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I'm after a different caliber of critter than most. I don't want to worry about something else going wrong.
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Originally posted by Gun:
I'm after a different caliber of critter than most. I don't want to worry about something else going wrong.
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No, EVERYONE does not want to watch hunt videos. At 66 years old I've never filmed one and never will.
When I hunt it is a personal experience between me, the animal, and nature.
I have no d#$$ desire to share it with anyone else.
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I think that filming the kill takes something away from the sacredness of the event, and the very fact that I have been given a gift to be the unique individual to experience those precise moments. Instead of a great story told at camp, it becomes an analytical procedure of sorts. And there is no imagination required by anyone because a video is the next thing to actually being there.
For teaching purposes, I think they have their place. I used to enjoy watching videos, but I've come to the point where they are all the same, boring, self-promoting exercise. That probably soured me, too.
In addition, I have no desire to blow shot opportunities when messing with camera equipment. I have no problem with pictures of the hunt, camp, game killed, etc. though. In fact, still photos write the story of the hunt and leave our imaginations to take us there.
Another thing that I feel very strongly about is standing over or filming an animal as it dies. I will never do that. I can only imagine what it would be like to have a predator standing over you as you breathe your last (even for a prey animal that lacks the ability to rationally think). If I need to administer a second shot, I do. But then I walk away for a few minutes and let that animal have some peace. Might sound "soft" or weird, but any animal in my book deserves that respect as it dies from a wound that we inflicted upon it. My $.02.
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Never had a desire to film a hunt. I don't see hunting as a spectator sport. We all know the rush and excitement of getting close and getting a shot. Filmed hunts don't and can not convey those feelings.
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I enjoy filming my hunts and feel like something is missing if I don't have a camera with me on stand or even still hunting.
I feel it adds to the challenge. Have I had the camera cost me a pig or two? Yes.Do I care? No.
However, I come from an art background and documenting events, feelings, and scenes is natural to me. I film spider webs moving in a light breeze, my shadow on the ground with bow in hand, songbirds and other things that I find visually interesting. I also carry a sketchbook and draw while on stand.
When I get a shot at an animal, I can review the footage of the hit or miss and decide on my next move. I encourage people that hunt with me to video their hunts. It's helped many times recovering pigs.
My son is almost twelve now and I have video of him slinging arrows at age two. He has filmed me a few times, too. Once after I made a rare perfect hit on a bedded pig at 8 yards. I turned around and saw him wide eyed behind the tripod because he accidentally zoomed in during the stalk and got my back instead of the pig! We laugh about it now.
It is difficult filming your own hunts but is so rewarding when it comes together. Plus, we as traditional bowhunters are used to doing things the hard way.
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Tom, BINGO!
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I agree with James. I film for my own satisfaction. Be it my surroundings or the game im after. But that is the beauty of this nation. Having the free will to chose your own path.
I also respect others opinions and points of view and hope to never infringe apon or offend them!
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My hunting time is for my own personal experience not everyone else's. I have enough to worry about without having to think of a camera!
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I guess I will differ from most of the posts on here. I have 2 hunts on film(so far), and of all the animals I have taken with various weapons, I get the most out of the one whitetail MISS I have on film.
It was by far the greatest adrenaline rush I have had hunting. Yes, there was a lost going on and I could have botched the shot because of fooling with camera, etc, but, like I stated, I catch myself watching that video and thinking about how much emotion and fun happened that day even with me missing.
And I agree the most with Jim Dussias's post. I know the one time I don't carry my camera will be the time that everything works out "perfectly" and I was too lazy to carry it.
I can see others views expressed though.
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Simplicity of pursuit. Why carry more crap into the woods? Stick, string, arrow. Don't need no stinking camera.
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My hunts are very personal. Only God, the animal, and myself should be involved. I don't mean to criticize those that do, however.
In short, I agree with bear bowman.
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Hunting is an experience,just you and nature.If there's a story,it should be told not shown.Myself, I don't need to see the same animal die over and over again.
Leland
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I use to film hunts but I feel the TV shows have totally ruined it. It's no longer about the hunt. It's all product placement and killing a big giant buck. Then they act stupid and ridiculous in front of the camera. Then I look up where they are hunting and sometimes it's fair chase and others are high fenced areas. They have to get kills to have a show so they do whatever they have to. I now let my brain be my camera. I can remember every detail of most of my hunts and it can never be deleted.
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I film my hog hunts but usually don't on my deer hunts. With Long Island deer they will pick you up very easily so I don't want to have to move until the shot. Also with deer I'm hunting public land and carry my stand in and out and adding my camera and heavy bracket is no fun.
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We take pictures to look at and show our friends, we post pics here to brag of our accomplishment, we mount their heads to our walls to look at daily, we invite friends over to eat what we've harvested. Why is taking video any different as long it's done in a tasteful manner. NOT LIKE WE SEE ON TV!
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Originally posted by crittergetter:
We take pictures to look at and show our friends, we post pics here to brag of our accomplishment, we mount their heads to our walls to look at daily, we invite friends over to eat what we've harvested. Why is taking video any different as long it's done in a tasteful manner. NOT LIKE WE SEE ON TV!
GREAT POST!
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I don't because when I hunt it's about my time away from any other distraction. Just me and the critters. I always take pictures to share, if successful.
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Just not into myself that much. Now that we have I phones do not even need a camera anymore.
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what does filming your hunt have anything to do with being "into yourself"?
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I'm not sure it would be possible for most of my hunting. I don't sit in trees or blinds much and trying to crawl up on a bedded muley and then set up the camera seems a great way to eat a tag.
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I fought the urge for years...
One because I didn't want to carry extra gear.
Two because I didn't want the distraction.
Three because I thought it might take away from the experience.
The game changer....hunting with Cade!
After watching him kill 2 deer his first year out when he was 12yrs. old and realizing I'd missed out on the opportunity of a lifetime to capture something that would mean even more to me as the years went on....I got a camera!
Started out the cheap route because I wanted light and easy. After one year and enjoying every second of it, I upgraded! I'm hooked!!!!!
Is it a pain sometimes? Does it make my pack #15 heavier? Does it complicate things at times? Has it taken away(at times)from my total focus on making the shot?
Yes to all!!!
But after capturing what I have the last two years, do I have any regrets.....
NO!!!!
I have and will continue to capture memories that I will cherish and be able the re-live until the good lord calls.
And after that, hopefully my kids with continue to enjoy them.
I don't film for other, I film for myself. Do I share, yes, only because I know some will appreciate the time and effort it takes to get good footage of traditional bowhunting.
As a matter of fact I'm about to start a thread with a video link attached.....I hope some will enjoy...
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I love to film. It does take some time to get where it is second nature though. I have been filming hunts for 35 years and will tell you that it is amazing how much you forget about hunts after 20-25 years. I watch those old videos and it is nearly exciting as when it occurred.
I have captured many of my children's hunts. I have amazing footage of a charging grizzly. I captured a nearly two hour sequence of a turkey attacking my decoy and a giraffe eye to eye with me in a tree stand. I have no regrets of carrying a camera all those years. I do share a few videos but honestly see it as something to leave my children more than anything else.
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Filming at the moment of kill is something in my opinion is something no one has a right to see except for me and whoever is with me.
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Have been tempted for years to film but I'm at a time in my life now that I try to take the least amount of "stuff" with me as possible. I enjoy the simple life of tranquility and am really happy to just hunt.
With all that said IF I had kids or grandkids that hunted with me like mentioned above I'd rethink it. And yes I do enjoy watching good videos of others hunts.
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Originally posted by Guru:
I fought the urge for years...
One because I didn't want to carry extra gear.
Two because I didn't want the distraction.
Three because I thought it might take away from the experience.
The game changer....hunting with Cade!
After watching him kill 2 deer his first year out when he was 12yrs. old and realizing I'd missed out on the opportunity of a lifetime to capture something that would mean even more to me as the years went on....I got a camera!
Started out the cheap route because I wanted light and easy. After one year and enjoying every second of it, I upgraded! I'm hooked!!!!!
Is it a pain sometimes? Does it make my pack #15 heavier? Does it complicate things at times? Has it taken away(at times)from my total focus on making the shot?
Yes to all!!!
But after capturing what I have the last two years, do I have any regrets.....
NO!!!!
I have and will continue to capture memories that I will cherish and be able the re-live until the good lord calls.
And after that, hopefully my kids with continue to enjoy them.
I don't film for other, I film for myself. Do I share, yes, only because I know some will appreciate the time and effort it takes to get good footage of traditional bowhunting.
As a matter of fact I'm about to start a thread with a video link attached.....I hope some will enjoy...
Curt, I for one, THOROUGHLY ENJOY your footage and I am thankful you share it. I look forward to the new footage!
SIDE THOUGHT:
Isn't the reason were all here to share something with someone else? I mean, this is the "virtual campfire", isn't it? I don't know what you fellas do around a camp fire, but when i'm around one, we typically share hunting stories. I would enjoy it even more watching hunting footage around a camp fire.
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WOW! Very surprised with the posts here!
Almost feel like I'm on "the other" site with the strong opinions of most who have never even tried filming their own hunt. Not much validity in most of the words here. Kinda like a "A" vs. "B" broadhead comparison.... do you really have a legit opinion before you've tried both? Also, to lump all filmed hunts into the same chest pumping category is wrong.
Do I film my hunts...Yes, most of the time.
Has it cost me opportunities....Yes, many.
Is it lots of extra work....uh,,yup!
I also shoot a stick because its not easy and enjoy the challenge. Add a video camera and especially the "solo" hunter approach with a stick and you've just made it 4X tougher than usual. And...like Guru said, there are plenty of memories out there that to not capture would be a shame.
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I took almost all of my antler collection off the walls of my shop the other day, there were a bunch. I couldn't remember anything about the majority of them, where I killed the deer or what it was. I viewed them as unnecessary clutter and I was in shop cleaning mode.
I look through my old hero pictures and they they don't impress me anymore.
I can pull up a few memories of a specific deer encounter and relive the moment to great satisfaction.
I guess I am getting old, I don't care much for the trophy/memento aspect of the hunt anymore, just the memories.
I won't be filming any of my hunts, I feel the camera would get in the way of the experience and I am all about the experience.
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Because like Bisch says it is a pain!
Also because if I did it a lot, I would want it to be perfect, and I would be fiddling with the editing all the time.
And I don't have the time or knowledge to do that.
It would just take up good hunting time, which is precious as it is.
Also...and I'm not saying you guys do it for this reason, but some folks film just to feed their egos.
The videos I like are the ones showing the hunting world as it truly is, good days, bad days, good weather, bad weather, good shots, missed shots,etc.
A few guys who do that are Bill Langer, Clay Hayes, South Cox. I know there are others.
It's also a bonus if you can watch a video and learn some skills. I like the ones on the Stalker website done by Ryan.
Those that can hunt and self film are more talented than I.
JMHO
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I have enough trouble getting an animal down for a still photo without adding difficulties of getting shot on camera.
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https://m.youtube.com/results?q=michael%20arnette&sm=1
https://m.youtube.com/results?q=michael%20arnette&sm=1
I filmed these two recurve kills this year as well as another mature doe kill.
That being said I'm not sure I'll do it again next year.
The biggest thing I liked about it is that I was able to share it with my friends and family and I think it helped them better understand the rush of the moment and the skill involved. They now have more respect for the hours I put into practice and scouting.
Negatives would be the extra time it took to edit and get the film but especially the fact that I personally don't have as good of a memory of the actual moment of the encounter...I have watched the film so many times that it has replaced the memories of the moment for me.
If I do it next year I won't watch the film...ever! I'll have someone else edit it and review it and the memories of the intense moment will stay in that special place of my memory.
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I prefer a picture and a great storie . Weird ?
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I just discovered my cell phone can do video and record your voice- I'm behind in the tech world. One thing I found was it is a nice way to remind yourself of the terrain and any new ideas you might come up with.Leave a message with the voice thing and take notes later. Filming is beyond :confused: my skills.
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It's personal for me.
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Some folks equate a filmed hunt with a filmed kill. As a solo hunter who has made many trips into the wilderness of Alaska and the mountains of the west, I know full well what I give up by bringing the video camera, and I also know the tremendous rewards the camera and the bow bring. Some of these rewards come years and decades down the trail. The hunt has always been the main focus, and filming the kill of lesser priority. Mike
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Originally posted by bear bowman:
Maybe I'm weird but I always felt hunting was a very personal thing. Especially the kill. For me it would take that away.
Pretty much me in a nutshell...
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I enjoy seeing a well done film as much as the next guy. I do not care if it doesnt end with an animal stumbling around and dying.
Turn offs, fist pumping and celebration while the animal is dying. People pushing gear, Rock music and swear words.
I would consider filming but I still need to work at being a better hunter before I add extra hurdles to jump. At this point in my life I am a meat hunter. I have killed so few deer I can remember every one.
Have I passed a lot of "gimme" shots over the years. Yep, hundreds, back when I was a trophy hunter.
Film or no film, it seems like its personal preference like someone mentioned earlier, choosing broad heads. I think whats most important is the content of the film.
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Originally posted by Michael Arnette:
Negatives would be the extra time it took to edit and get the film but especially the fact that I personally don't have as good of a memory of the actual moment of the encounter...I have watched the film so many times that it has replaced the memories of the moment for me.
If I do it next year I won't watch the film...ever! I'll have someone else edit it and review it and the memories of the intense moment will stay in that special place of my memory.
Thanks for putting in words what I also feel.
To you guys who put out the quality footage, keep it up, I enjoy it a lot. Just can't see myself doing it for lack of skill in using a camera and lack of desire in dealing with computers in the editing phase and of course the reasons above.
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I tried it for a season, and just took all the relaxation aspect of hunting out of it for me. I was constantly checking battery level, card capacity, and trying to not forget to hit the record button. Before the hunt I was worried about clearing the sd cards, making sure the batteries where charged, and getting the footage downloaded. For me it became more about the camera and film than the hunt. I have more than enough busyness in my normal life than to add stress to the time I am suppose to be unwinding, but like others I like watching other people film, and yes I do appreciate how much work goes into it. Filming is for those who get as much joy out of telling the story as they do making the story.
Dan
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Nice Arnette!
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I do like watching them but for me as many have stated. It takes away from that personal experience between me and the beast. My daughter plays field hockey and a few years ago I started filming her games. Having your eye stuck on a little screen did drastically take away me being able to enjoy the game and seeing the plays develop. Film on though, I will surely watch and enjoy yours!
I do really like my after the fact photos documenting everything about the particular hunt and I do that for personal reasons so when I am old and can't get out anymore I will remember and be able to relive my travels and success's.
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Eric Krewson said, "I took almost all of my antler collection off the walls of my shop the other day, there were a bunch. I couldn't remember anything about the majority of them, where I killed the deer or what it was. I viewed them as unnecessary clutter and I was in shop cleaning mode.
I look through my old hero pictures and they they don't impress me anymore.
I can pull up a few memories of a specific deer encounter and relive the moment to great satisfaction.
I guess I am getting old, I don't care much for the trophy/memento aspect of the hunt anymore, just the memories.
I won't be filming any of my hunts, I feel the camera would get in the way of the experience and I am all about the experience."
Eric, I feel the same way. I took all of my antlers off the wall years ago and have been cutting them up any time I need them for anything practical, like the antler and osage bow rack I made a few weeks ago.
When I'm looking through pictures looking for one related to bow making and come across the 'kill pics' I've taken over the years, I just want to throw 99% of them away... and I haven't taken such a picture in years.
I do, however, take pictures and video of wildlife, plants, scenery and such while I'm out in the woods, enjoy like photos by others, and those are much, much more special to me than the 'look what I did' pics.
Maybe it depends where we're at in our journey. Pictures or videos of animals dying at my hand seem exceedingly morbid, and nearing as much so as it would be for me to take video or pictures of a dying or dead family member. It's bizarre. That's not what I want to remember about them... any of them.
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For those of you on the "con" side of filming hunts or not wanting to see animal perish because it is morbid....I'm curious to know your opinion of the old Fred Bear hunting videos? All kinds of animals killed all over the world. He and his production folks do (in my opinion) an AMAZING job telling the story of the hunt. Not glorifying the kill, but telling incredible stories about incredible hunts that most people will never experience.
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I bought a nice camera a few years back. Same one The Wensels used on the last Primal dreams. I thought I would try to film hunts but I never get a kill on film. I use it when in a turkey blind and I have it hanging in the tree with me during deer season and I like to film the big one that wouldn't come close enough. I also really like it for blood trailing etc. I use it for filming velvet bucks etc. I really enjoy it. I do have some kills on film. Mostly stuff in Africa where another person was in the blind with me filming.
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dnurk, im on the con side but you are right. The hunt was mostly about the adventure. Also he was a pioneer and the kill in my opinion was to promote the fact that a bow is a viable hunting weapon.
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I didn't read all the posts but I don't film my hunts for a few reasons:
- Never gave it one moment of consideration, just not my thing.
- All I would be filming is birds and trees, don't see a lot of deer by me when hunting.
- Don't want to spend the money on a camera.
I do enjoy watching the films. But after awhile I go pick up a book and read about it instead. I get tired of seeing and hearing the same thing.
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Bowjunkie, You are in the stage right before hunting loses all its enjoyment. Next you won't want to kill anything because of its beauty. I saw my Dad go through that as he got older. He would still go to the woods but he didn't really want to shoot anything. To relate documenting our hard earned success' of killing something that was put here for us to eat to a dead family member is across the line and very bizare.
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I just never had any interest in filming my hunts, and very seldom watch hunting videos. I see absolutely nothing wrong with it if you enjoy it.
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Im going to take back what I said about being on the "con" side of filming the hunt. After reading all the responses, it seams that most think bowhunting is about deer. I would love to see trad films that involve camps, clubs small game, down to earth blue collar deer hunting, field/target and a little bit of how to. I have expressed an interest that there should be a show about such. Like many others, a camera is just not in my budget. Still praying mr money bags would knock at my door and hire me to do it.
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Originally posted by kill shot:
dnurk, im on the con side but you are right. The hunt was mostly about the adventure. Also he was a pioneer and the kill in my opinion was to promote the fact that a bow is a viable hunting weapon.
Yep...and I think that's likely what many here are recoiling at. Many of the modern hunt videos glorify gear, trophy hunting, and above all else killing something. I don't watch most of the shows on Tv for that reason.
But every year at camp we do break out my DVDs of the old Fred Bear hunts. The story trumps everything else.
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I guess my pet peeve about these self filmed videos is the hunter turning the camera on himself and whispering unintellig1ble mutterings to the camera. Do a voice over in the editing in a normal voice.
Second is obnoxious rock music in the background.
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reddogge, oh yes, the rock music. It just dont belong. Or the music from the movie terminator or the likes.
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I want to experience Nature, the woods, the hunt to the fullest, and I feel that being distracted by technology would prevent me from doing so
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I imagine the choice depends on what the hunter wants out of the hunt and what is most important to him or her. For me it's another distraction. Whether it's cameras or drones, I'm out for the peace. Maybe because I live and work in the biggest city in the USA that I seek sanctuary in the music of the woodlots I hunt. Somedays just sitting at the base of a mighty oak waiting for a deer to approach while listening to the birds singing, the hawks screeching, the squirrels chattering is more than enough distraction from the modern world. Sometimes I wish we had true primitive seasons, self bows, cane arrows, stone heads, just to have some peace. Now as I travel the woods I need to be on the lookout for trail cameras, as if I need some other hunter have a 8x10 of me.
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Most actual production hunting videos are at least 50% fake anyway. In addition to the reasons posted, I don't want my name on the list of hunts on videos. I KNOW most camera shots are re-creations of some sort. I also know people who vid and one just quit and actually enjoys hunting again...no thanks. It was humorous watching him pack a truckload of equipment and I had...well, a fanny pack and longbow.
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Like most of the rest of our passion, "To each his/her own". I've been considering trying a simple GoPro/ iPhone combo with the camera set on the other side of the turkey decoys looking back at me from 10 +/- yards away. The phone controls the camera. as soon as the birds get near, I hit play and concentrate on the hunt.
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I have seen a few I liked and a few I disliked. I have never tried to video a hunt myself.
The ones that come to mind that I liked were by Stickflinger and Guru. I guess I wouldn't mind having a video of a hunt or two, but don't care to spend the money for equipment. Plus I don't want any distractions as the shot occurs.
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I started filming last year. I always took lots of pics anyway, for writing purposes, but the video adds a whole new element. It's addicting to me...almost as fun as "not" filming. Except for shooting the bow, it's the same, really...but I get to document every animal and scene I find interesting.
I've not gotten to the point of buying an expensive camera, but I have a go-pro (which I seldom use) and a good compact camera that takes great HD video. It works for what I want to do with it.
Filming is just another way to document for posterity what we do...and it's needed. Not the kill shots, or the whooping and hollering, or all the stuff that is a "turn-off" to the usual videos, but to show folks the emotion, the dedication, the feeling of accomplishment that trad bowhunting represents. We are still "selling" this sport...maybe more so than even Fred Bear did. And while many of us "older" folks despise the tech, and still love a good read and pics to go along with it....the new generation of folks gets their information from short 3 to 10 minute videos posted online on sites like you-tube and vimeo. Video is just another and perhaps more creative way to engage your senses and "sell" an idea or concept. It's a way to "give back" to a sport that has filled my life with so much joy, by helping to pass on the excitement and fun we have to future participants.
I hope I never reach the stage of "hiding" what I do from others. I'm proud of my accomplishments, and work to tell others about it in good taste, and with logical clarity. There is nothing to hide for me. My trophies are displayed for my enjoyment, like hunters have done since the beginning of it all. My stories are told to folks that have an interest, and they listen often in disbelief and yes, respect, that we still hunt that way. There is no reason a good video can't do the same.
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Well said Mark Baker!
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I have been considering filiming some cool outdoor and hunting stuff this year. Do you guys prefer a designated a video recorder or a digital camera with a video function?
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I'm not against anyone filming their hunts. I love watching all the videos posted here. It's just not for me. I hope no one took my first comment to be offensive.
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In thinking about this some more it brought memories of one of my first bear hunts. I was not successful but shared camp with two strangers. Good guys and we had fun, although they were insistant that bears "had to be shot through the heart" in order to be assured of a good kill. How untrue that was!
They had video taped their hunt from the previous year. They did have some poor shots, like when the bear came in you could barely see it, only the very top of the bear.
But what they did that I enjoyed was told the whole story of the hunt with very brief shots of the bear hunting process. Driving down the road into the hunting area, introducing their host, baiting, tried to do the shot sequence, tracking, etc. The video was never intended to be award winning. It was done just for their remembrance and for sharing with a few friends. If I ever do one, that is what I would want.
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So any of you who are filming their hunts using a TactaCam? Are they superior to a go pro? It looks like they keep improving them. They have a wide angle version now. There is almost nothing extra to carry with those right? I have never seen a hunt someone filmed with one except for the manufacturers website. Hard to tell if those are enhanced for the purpose of selling or not.
Thanks,
Tedd
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In response to the OP, no everyone does not like watching hunting videos.
I hate them.
Hunting is personnel, between myself and the animal I'm after, I seldom even photo any kills either.
I don't understand the mindset of those who enjoy "snuff" films.
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I don't even like to take pictures of what I shoot. On Canadian canoe trips, i take no pictures, that is up to someone else. For myself, taking videos and pictures is a distraction, so it does not come up. Besides nothing ruins a picture quicker than having me in it.
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This was my response three years ago when this thread was started. I still feel the same.
I take camp pictures, and landscape pictures, pictures of plants and critters, even hero pictures of the critter after it's dead, but not video of me killing critters. Killing an animal is a very personal experience, and not something I feel comfortable filming or "sharing."
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film or hunt, self film is very hard like many have stated. Also to put together good footage to make a hunt video that flows is a lot of time and effort.
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Maybe I'm weird but I always felt hunting was a very personal thing. Especially the kill. For me it would take that away.
Exactly how I feel about it..... not that I mind watching other's videos, but I don't want to see me on screen. The memory of the shot is all mine.....
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I've tried. I take the camera it almost never works out. I had one that worked out on a pig at Big Oak. The experience was phenomenal being there. The video, not so much. Like the deer I shot yesterday it was all I wanted to turn draw, grunt to stop her and thread the arrow through the limbs. I wouldn't have had time to adjust a camera.
And honestly most home style videos just aren't something I find appealing. Occasionally someone does a good job. I'm not that guy.
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I really enjoy filming. It can be very annoying at times, but I just about enjoy getting the footage and shot on film as much as actually hunting. I'm not any good at it, but filming is enjoyable for me. Also, I'm 26. People my age just dont get why we do what we do, I try to shed a litte light on that. Showing the laughs, the prep, the work and the passion behind it is part of the reason I carry the extra weight in with a smile. I feel (speaking to myself only here dont think I'm calling out others) almost selfish to not show others how much fun hunting is. Not everyone had the upbringing I did, ate up with hunting opportunities, for viewers like that, I hope to maybe give a spark.
We need more hunters, bad. Our numbers are falling fast. I'm hoping that maybe somebody somewhere has tried a trad bow or bowhunting due to seeing the fun that can be had.
Maybe I'm delusional, maybe not. Either way I'll have 3 cameras in the tree with me every time I go.
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I love taking pictures and video of cool things that I see in the woods, whether it's deer, wolves, sunsets, etc. I got a better camera this year for Christmas so I'm hoping to get some better video this coming season.
When I was younger I was filmed while hunting in Wisconsin. It was really interesting seeing all the behind the scenes stuff that goes into making quality hunting videos. The only problem that I had was when the deer showed up I never waited for the camera. I think they got about half a second of footage of it before I pulled the trigger. :laughing:
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Pain in the azz, passing on better shot opportunities because they don't film well, turning the hunt into something contrived for film purposes and taking away the focus from why I hunt.
I'll remember it the way it was, and I can tell it, and re-tell it, I grew up with that in the age before video and photo-documentation and instant gratification.
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I don’t know about others but for me:
1) I like to hunt, not film.
2) I don’t have filming equipment and don’t care to buy it or learn how to use it
3) I don’t want to miss shots because I’m trying to film
4) I don’t want and often cannot share space for a friend to hunt directly with me to be a camera man and even if I could I wouldn’t want to because I like the quiet and to get away when I hunt.
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The answer to your question is:
Because it’s a PITA to film and hunt by yourself!!!!!!
Bisch
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I am just curious as to why more people do not film their hunts..?
For the same reason I don't film myself making love. It's beautiful, but personal. Besides, it rarely looks as good as it feels.
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As stated earlier you’ll for sure lose some opportunities yourself. Asking another fellow to film you seems silly. I’d not want to be a watcher/filmed unless it was in mentoring a beginner. That (mentoring) imo would take precedence over the videoing so I’d still not do so. I’ll be honest I’m one who almost never watches hunt videos. They’re boring to me. Hunting is about a lot more than just a shot. That’s not normally portrayed in a video. Either it’s a marketing scam when done professionally or a “look at me” thing very often. No offense to fellows that do it or like em, that’s just my take on it.
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I have a Sony Handycam bought just for that but it seems too many times I've took it and nothing to video. Leave it at camp and bam, dead animals.
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One of the more interesting threads lately. I've read all the responses. So many are very deep and profound.
This will be my 50th year big game hunting with archery equipment. The hunt is very special to me and has changed over the years and I find it changing again as I receive more and more Medicare Insurance offers these days. :goldtooth:
I tried to video tape my son killing his 2nd deer in Missouri when he was 14 back in 1994. Those were the days when the consumer video set up involved a two piece VCR, pretty good sized camera, and cables. It took me several minutes to set the whole thing up once in the tree. I did get him on very poor video killing that deer, it was more for me than him. I wanted to see if I could do it. However, that film was recorded over by mistake and is lost.
Fast forward to the past couple of years and I'm fiddling around again but just with an iPhone. It isn't important to me but when I think of it I have a clamp that will hold the phone, aimed where I suspect a shot might happen. I actually turn the video on during prime time moments. I've "captured" a few deer walking (deer that I don't want to shoot), but I haven't captured a shot on the phone. I'm not doing this for others per se, although if I get it done I'll show my son and brother.
I might find that I don't like reliving the shot in that way? Most of the visuals are emblazoned in my brain anyway.
To answer the posters original question. I'm not intent on filming because it isn't important enough to me. My favorite visuals posted on this forum are of the places people hunt; the trails, the stands, mountains, etc. I'd rather see a photo of a beautiful forested valley and imagine what lives there rather than focus on the animal.
I can offer this however, I missed an Impala in South Africa a few years ago. My friend/PH tried to provide solace by suggesting the beast "ducked" my recurve-launched arrow. I knew that it didn't. I simply shot high.
He had a camera going so we looked at the recording....alas, I was right and he was wrong. He said, "Wow, you just missed by an inch." I replied, "No, I missed the kill shot by about 6" inches. I failed to pick a spot. The lament of sightless archers since the invention of our equipment.
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I am another one who agrees that the kill is a personal event, that I just don't prefer to share. Also, I don't care much for the photography end of things. I don't like to take pictures or to be in them, partly because I have never owned a good camera. However, I do really enjoy the pictures that others post.
At our camp, we have a young teenage guy who has been trying very hard to video himself making the kill. In the last couple of seasons he has gut shot two deer that were not recovered (rifle shooter). Some of the people thought I was out of line when I suggested that he should concentrate more on hunting than movie making.
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I have brought video cameras and have filmed many solo hunts. If you view any of the fully edited productions I've produced or helped produce like "Primal Dreams" , "Essential Encounters" or "Chasing Solitude", you will see a vast commitment to the habitat and wildlife. When a lot of people talk of filming a hunt, the vast majority of the time they are referring to the kill. If you ever get a chance to see our stuff, you will see that yes the kill is part of it, but is often deemphasized. It is very tough to please everyone, so I usually do what I've done for over 20 years, bring the camera and film what I can. Share when I can. Not nearly enough credit goes to the editors. Mike
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I understand the "personal" consideration. It is a very intense moment for me. The ones who claim to show about the experience and such is nice I guess. It is nice to see new landscapes and stuff I'll never get to hunt and what not. But the average guy on YouTube isn't producing and editing and using high dollar equipment.
Idk. Even most of the well produced hunting shows have gone pale for me.
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The main benefit I see with videoing a hunt is to be able to verify shot placement. What we “see” is not always what actually happened, and being able to verify beyond a doubt really can be a help in decision making after the shot.
That being said, I tried it for a while, and it’s too much of a PITA for me to deal with when trying to do it by yourself.
Bisch
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Herdbull,
If the only videos new or prospective hunters could view were yours, I'd be even more optimistic about the future of hunting and these kids. I am already very optimistic by the way.
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I am just curious as to why more people do not film their hunts..?
For the same reason I don't film myself making love. It's beautiful, but personal. Besides, it rarely looks as good as it feels.
My thoughts exactly!
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I’m not coordinated enough to make certain my game is in my lens while preparing for shot. I admire those that can pull it off. I like the idea as I enjoy watching!
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bearbowman agreed.
I think filming hunts is important for the sport, and many folks enjoy doing it and watching it, but for me filming a hunt makes it into making a movie and the hunt itself i think becomes less sacred, which i dont have much interest in, though i might try it sometime who knows.
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How is filming hunts important for the sport? To me hunting is far from a sport. Or a hobby or a past time.
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At 65 years young I now enjoy hunting Northern Michigan public land whitetails from the ground only - no pop-up blinds, mainly backed into/under some good ground cover. Usually too much brush close around me to set-up and maneuver a tripod and camera. I also keep movement to a bare minimum limited to just prior and thru the shot. On a lighter note, self-filming would keep me from telling some great stories of the size of the deer I let walk. https://www.tradgang.com/tgsmf/Smileys/tg/archer.gif:archer: Practice-Practice-Practice-Beer :biglaugh:
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Was asked several times to have my Red Stag hunt filmed and declined all requests.
This morning was my 85th hunt this deer season. The thrill and pleasure incurred by experiencing the gift of the outdoors is more than enough reward for me personally. I find it wonderful for those who enjoy filming and sharing their footage. Those hunters should follow their own passion for personal gratification.
My own focus remains on something more personal as I don't envision filming would heighten my own experience.
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Takes away from my concentration on what I’m doing to get a shot at what I’m hunting.
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Filming,, I film it all with my brain and watch the videos in my head,,,, I think when I started watching other amateur DIY hunts is the reason I wont even watch hunting videos anymore I think with me it got old pretty fast and now I just want to hunt,,,I even stopped taking pics of kills and I stopped bragging or telling people about my success in the field (not that I was overly successful) but I even quit using trail cameras and just like seeing tracks and droppings now.. its now a personal thing I guess but it seemed to be on a different level than when I first started so instead of "I really need a harvest pic of a huge deer to show my buddys at work" I now think to my self,,, "I hope I see a huge deer" :biglaugh:.
so what did I get in 2018 and where's the pic--> :dunno:
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I TRY!….il keep trying.
https://youtu.be/-St_SIcjnCc
if you use one of these cheap camera mounts take it apart and put string wax on areas that move, otherwise its to loose or to tight.
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I haven't read through all the pages so excuse me if someone already took this point of view but you all that take the stance that it is a private moment, don't share anything about the hunt, etc....do you like to look at retro hunting pics that some of these seasoned hunters post from time to time? I know I do. I wish that my dad and grandpap and uncles would have taken more pics when they were younger. I hardly have any pics at all of my family hunting back in the day. To me, this is no different. One day I hope my grandkids can still watch this footage I'm taking and maybe strike a chord in them. My boy got his first deer this year (small 6 pt) and I was fortunate enough to get it all on film. Can't tell you how many times I've watched it. One day, his kids will hopefully love watching their daddy shoot his first buck. Do it for the next generation...it doesn't have to be a personal, selfish thing.
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what happens in the woods stays in the woods .
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what happens in the woods stays in the woods .
You leave your deer in the woods? Only being facetious of course, but, I believe the most fun i've had in the outdoors is when I share it with others. I have a few kills on film and there is nothing more awesome than looking back at them to me. It is fun to relive the moment, often you forget them but are reminded of them when watching the footage.
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I TRY!….il keep trying.
https://youtu.be/-St_SIcjnCc
if you use one of these cheap camera mounts take it apart and put string wax on areas that move, otherwise its to loose or to tight.
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It'll get better! What camera arm are you using? I did some modifications on mine. I purchased a cheap gorilla one about 6 years ago and then converted it over to a much better fluid head. It was worth the extra $20
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Reminds me of the old saying, either fish or cut bait.
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I haven't read through all the pages so excuse me if someone already took this point of view but you all that take the stance that it is a private moment, don't share anything about the hunt, etc....do you like to look at retro hunting pics that some of these seasoned hunters post from time to time? I know I do. I wish that my dad and grandpap and uncles would have taken more pics when they were younger. I hardly have any pics at all of my family hunting back in the day. To me, this is no different. One day I hope my grandkids can still watch this footage I'm taking and maybe strike a chord in them. My boy got his first deer this year (small 6 pt) and I was fortunate enough to get it all on film. Can't tell you how many times I've watched it. One day, his kids will hopefully love watching their daddy shoot his first buck. Do it for the next generation...it doesn't have to be a personal, selfish thing.
I gree with this! wish the ancestors took more pics.
il leave as much as I can for whoever comes next.
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Based on what I see on most of the hunting shows, I wish a lot of guys would STOP filming their hunts! ;-)
I am glad that some people film and share their hunts. I love the Primal Dreams videos, as an example. For those folks that want to do it, and that make a good video in a tasteful manner and share it, more power to them.
Personally, I have no interest in filming. I'm in the woods to get away from technology and distraction. For the small amount of time I get each year to be out there hunting, I want to just relax and enjoy the hunt and not worry about anything else.
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I guess to watch my own hunt again. I could care less about watching someone else go on a hunt. I don't rent hunting videos or watch hunting shows on tv.
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I see it as the choice of the hunter,have no desire to do it but have no problem with others doing it.
Terry
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I really have no desire to film my hunts for the simple reason that I want to concentrate on the hunt and it just seems like a lot of unneeded equipment in the woods with me. I don't watch YouTube or other videos so to me I'm not missing anything. I like to just relive the hunt in my head.
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I record a hunt in my brain, every small detail, I can rerun it anytime I want to.
I don't put mounts on the wall, wear the latest, or any camo for that matter, have tattoos, wear my pants below my butt or have stopped shaving for a week or so to be trendy.
I see no purpose in spending a bunch of money and interrupting the special solitude of a hunt to shoot some amateurish, poor quality video that I may never watch again once I see how lousy the quality is. I have boxes of archery related home movies(my wife loved her video camera) that have no interest in watching.
A few of us march to the beat of a different drummer than the masses.
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Eric, I am the same way about not filming.
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Do it for the next generation...it doesn't have to be a personal, selfish thing.
That's a solid point, you make.
For us, that's what campfire & bedtime is all about -- telling stories. I suppose video is the modern equivalent of the storyteller... Just the same, I'll stick to what I know.
I take some video & photos during a hunt but just during the "down time." But we don't get as many shot opportunities out here. So if something exciting is happening, I need all my attention on not screwing it up. It might be a few years before another opportunity comes along.
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I'll add my 2 cents... I can appreciate what Eric is saying. We are all different, we all appreciate different things and relate and connect differently. I have watched a lot of hunting videos, then I stopped because it seemed like kill shot after kill shot on some deer farm without even the slightest hint of a background story. Now, I feel, there are people making hunting videos with beautiful stories, beautiful scenes of wild places, places I may never get to see or walk. On you tube there are guys making hunting videos that have the kind of personality I would love to share a camp with. Of course there are hunters making videos and I cant stand their personality, I don't watch them. There are people I feel are disrespectful to dead animals, I feel sensitive to that, I don't watch.
I love being outside, everything about wild places close and far and the animals that live there. That being said in the 4 mo. I'm able to be outside hunting there are so many beautiful moments I am witness to. I appreciate being able to try and capture some of this on film and with written words. No its never the same but if you try hard sometimes its close enough to make an impression on a friend or family member that was not there, its close enough that when i revisit it years later it stirs up a dozen more thoughts and memories that I had forgotten about that day. There are people smarter than me that do that better, more creatively, more consistently and with better gear.
To be able to share a feeling, an emotion, a moment in time that leaves an impression is to me a gift of sorts. There are those that do it with words, those that do it with camera lenses, those that do it with a paint brush, those that sing with a voice ill never have, people that dance and move beautifully. All those things I relate to differently, as to say I appreciate them or care for them differently but that's just me.
To me there are video story tellers out there, professional and amateur that do a wonderful job sharing wilderness places, hunts, and stories... Like my friend Jack use to say put your heart in the right place and show me your passion! :campfire:
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73yo Jim one hour before I shot my first elk with a longbow that he called 10 yards past me in Colorado on the last day of the season.
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That's very well said James.
People that are way smarter than me say that is what sets humans apart from all other animals. It is our desire to share and pass things on.
I would love to one day do some videos,but for now I have to concentrate on the shot!
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on a different note if anyone here who has been in these forums for a long time remembers in another forum about 20yrs ago there was a stickbow hunter who was also a photographer and he would take professional looking pictures in Black and white and then scan them to show us over there and I thought that was pretty cool,, it was like looking at pics from the 40's.
so thinking about this and my previous post for a day at work I do have to admit that its pretty cool when I watch old hunting VHS videos and I don't really do it to watch the kills or learn anything I do it for the nostalgia,, its cool watching them with the latest and greatest equipment which to me is ancient,, same as traditional muzzleloader videos I do enjoy watching them to see them hunt in the old style..
so no I'm still not interested in filming my hunts to later sit down and say "come check this out" but I think my grand kids looking back on it 30/40yrs from now ((if possible)) would be pretty cool.
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I pack a handicam along sometimes and have gotten some nice wildlife footage, but like many here I have no interest in filming my kills.
Sorry, but for me shooting a big game animal is a heavy moment, and nobody has any business being there with me. Besides, watching me would be anticlimactic after watching hunting shows....I don't jump around, hyperventilate, cry, or yell "That's what I'm talkin' 'bout!" while doing the fist pump after shooting something. I generally just hang my bow up on a limb and put my hands in my pockets 'till its time to track.
R
Agree I do take pictures and a few videos with my phone but as soon as I see something I'm going to try to kill the phone goes back into my pocket. After the shoot the bow goes back on the hanger and its quite time again
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I do video my hunts but just with my little action camera I have on my hat..
Also like to take photos and try all tell the story the way the hunt unfolded..
I also have a tendency to get excited and have a huge adrenaline rush after the shot sometimes under control sometimes not..And that is why I hunt it’s my drug of choice....
One day I will edit all my footage and put it out for the world to look at , or not look at ( neat thing about freedom)..
If people think it’s just ego or bragging then they don’t know me and that’s fine cause I don’t want to know them them..
All kinds of things people in this world are good at....
Story telling..
Taking pictures...
Helping others..
Hunting..
Archery..
Making videos..
Then you have people that talk a big talk but don’t walk the walk...
I respect every opinion on this subject that has been posted here just talking about keyboard hero’s in general when it comes to advice on some things...
,,,Sam,,,
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cant hardly wait to see your videos Sam :thumbsup:
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Okay I got the camera bnb out and charged. Going to sit this evening and try but it's like a deterrent to game when I take it.
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Almost all of my hunts are on limited access public. I’m glad I’m not the filming type, I don’t want to carry any more in than I have too.
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My cheap action camera cost $54 and is mounted to my hat , weights nothing , reach up push 2 buttons and your golden. Had it on my head for 33 days in the Colorado backcountry and it was not in my way at any time...
I pretty much wear it on every hunt , cheap , light and easy....
,,Sam,,
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Yeah. Take camera and pigs and deer avoid me. Lol.
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Sam do you have an info on the camera you use?
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I never got into filming a hunt. Maybe I'm old and don't go for the modern technology. I feel hunting is a solitary sport, just me and the animals. I will take a pic of a successful hunt, but thats all I have ever considered.
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Bought it on the big sale sight think it is $54 , I have 2 of them and they have worked great. One stays on my hat the other on the cheap flex tripod , the footage I get is good enough for me. I bought extra batteries for $15 , also bought several extra cards. So for $150 you have everything you need , I’m not trying to make a feature film so this stuff works for me..
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First, there is no right or wrong in this...just what people prefer from their hunts. Some are very social and enjoy sharing what they do in the woods, while some are more about hunting for its own intrinsic value without a desire to record and share it. I definitely fall into the latter group. I like to take lots of still pictures and sometimes a bit of video on a hunt, but most of it never leaves my home. I've never wanted to video a kill ever.
The truth is....while I enjoy a documentary video of a big hunt...I don't care at all to see an animal shot by another hunter. Maybe I've seen too much of it. Or maybe it's just my personal sentiments about the kill being a moment which deserves some dignity and privacy. Watching animals take bullets and arrows on video makes me uneasy...and that's just what it is. I go with my feelings. I like the videos which don't focus on the shot or kill as a primary objective.
As for myself, I won't ever try to actually video a kill even while I might shoot some hunt-related video. And as always, most of it is only for my wife and maybe a friend or 2 to see, unless I decide to use some stills for a written story.
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I've seen inexperienced hunters post video of a kill shot and post it to ask if they should pursue or let the animal lie for a while etc. I wouldn't mind video of my hunts but it just seems the animals are camera shy.
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My wife videoed a lot of my hunt in Africa. I also shot some video. We put it into a nice show with many pictures and the videos. Wow what a great way to remember the hunt. She only videoed one of the actual shots of the arrow. It is pretty cool, but many people just don't like to see kill shots if they are not hunters. They enjoy the photos and video of the animals coming into water and the country we hunted. You have to do it in good taste for non- hunters.
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I don't film cause I already carry too much crap into the woods with me. Season ends tomorrow here. Just yesterday I went through my pack again and took out stuff I had carried all season and not used.