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Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: IndaTimber on May 19, 2016, 04:48:00 PM
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Received my new Kanati, 58" 55#@28" and I'm just under 29", and it is a shooter!! I had a bow quiver on it but I think my wife is ordering me one of Art Vincent's side quivers so I've been shooting with out it and notice a little more noise than with the bow quiver.
I know the rubber grippers and the weight of the quiver were helping a little but was wondering if there was more I could do.
Bow is at 7 1/4" brace height, 5/8" nock height, and shooting Doug firs at 610 - 615 grains. I have beaver puffs on the string but was considering putting the Bow hush and hush puppies on it instead.
Thoughts?
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Mine got very quiet at 7 3/4" brace height. It was very noisy below that.
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What kind of noise are you getting?
Lots of things can create noise.
Looks like your arrows are heavy enough.
Bow hush is really for recurves.
Hush puppies may very well help...they work great for me.
String silencers can and should be adjusted up and down the string to achieve the greatest effect....and they don't always need to be equal distances from the tips to do this.
Play with your brace height a little..find where the bow likes it to be.
Check your arrow nocks..they might be too tight and making a "POP" noise when coming off the string.
They should just stay/hang on the string until you give the string a little bump.
You could also be having the arrow smack the riser or the shelf.
Might have to play with the nock height a bit to help with shelf slap.
Might have to tune the dynamic spine of your arrows to help with riser slap.
If you haven't, put some padding on the shelf and riser to help quiet things down.
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Did you tune the brace height for quiet before you added the beaver balls?
DDave
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Originally posted by damascusdave:
Did you tune the brace height for quiet before you added the beaver balls?
DDave
I did not, but now will!
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I have a Kanati that I got last fall and simply started shooting with the string the way it came including the clamp on nockset...I shoot in a low ceiling basement and the bow impressed me with how quiet it was...I just took it outside and shot it for the first time and it seems quite noisy...my guess is the string has stretched a bit and the brace height is too low...with a high quality string like the one it came with I would expect hunting quiet without any string silencers, but it does seem to be sensitive to brace height...with 40 bows at my disposal I do not worry about making ever bow I own shoot to its potential
DDave
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Double post.
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Hush puppies got my bow way more quiet than it was with beaver fur.
Even trimmed them down quite a bit.
Brace height matters, and silencer placement matters a lot.
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I'm shooting a nearly identical set up. The brace height is critical and I found anything below 7 1/4" too noisey. Hush puppies work great. I put the top silencer 1/4 of the way from the string nock and the other 1/3 of the way. There is still a dull thud but it hasn't spooked any deer I've shot. In fact, when I last shot a deer, a doe right next to him didn't even leave the spot under my stand. I had to wait for her to leave on her own.
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Double post
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Try a well made B50 string. They're pretty inexpensive and I bet you will be surprised how quiet your bow will become. True, you might loose 5 ft. Per second but I think it will make that kanati whisper quiet. I say "well made" cause if it is constructed properly and pre-stretched, it should not stretch much on you. For your Poundage, I would try a 14 strand and no padding in the loops needed.
I make my own but I hear stilldub's are great.
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I recommend cat wiskers
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Just played around a bit and without the silencers, 7 3/8" was best on the brace. Then added the silencers and it pretty much sounds like when I had the quiver on. I think I'm going to try the hush puppies as well and see where that gets me.
My wife thinks I'm being way too critical/picky!
I absolutely love this bow and cannot wait until October!
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The one thing you want to be picky about for a hunting bow is making it quiet
DDave
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I LOVE a silent bow..
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Another thing you may want to try is have a friend stand right next to you who is a bow hunter.
Ask him if he thinks the bow is loud. Sometimes they are louder to the shooter than to anyone else.
I have a bow that I think is loud but everyone always tells me they have to watch when I shoot otherwise they dont know I am shooting.
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Also,
The Kanati is a fine bow. I shot 3 different ones friends had and the arrows were always touching in the target.
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Glad you got her quiet, as DDave alluded to you must find the proper brace for each individual bow if you want the best out of it. Identical makes may not always require the exact same brace.
Agree, Kanati is an excellent bow cyclic-rivers, wish he made a take down, I would get one in a heart beat.
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Ive never seen beaver or otters puffs do much of anything to quiet a bow. Yarn balls are my favorite with string scallops a close second. Nothing else compares.
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Originally posted by damascusdave:
Did you tune the brace height for quiet before you added the beaver balls?
DDave
Yeah toss the beaver puffs. They don't do anything besides look great. They remind me of a few of my old girlfriends. Haha.
Like Dave says, tune for BH noise without any silencing equipment on the bow or string. Then when you get it as quiet as it will be add them. Don't hesitate to add two sets of silencers on the string either. Makes a world of difference on some bows. Also change the position of the silencers. On most bows there is a spot that will be quieter than others.
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The key to getting a Kanati quiet, in my experience, is to raise the brace height until it gets quiet, and then use yarn string silencers -- I like wool yarn silencers the best, but acrylic yarn works too.
Don't be afraid of a brace height that seems really high. Once you get it quiet you will find that it is one of the best R/D bows out there -- quiet, fast, and natural to shoot.
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I also agree with tuning with a "naked" string first. I also like silencers I can adjust up or down the string--you can tune those like anything else. On some bows it can make a huge difference.
A good release is quieter. Nock fit makes a difference. String build makes a difference, and sometimes one string material is noisier than another.
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One thing that worked wonders for me is splitting your yarn puffs (I use cheap Walmart acrylic yarn, $2 for a lifetime supply!) in half, and putting a total of 4 on the string, each at 1/4 and 1/3. I'm not adding any more weight, but splitting them up into 2 small puffs made a huge difference on my current bow.
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After bare string brace is found I tie on a pair of rubber whiskers with a simple overhand knot. Like LBR mentioned they are easily adjustable to find correct placement. Then I go with hush puppies, work great and look cool. Also agree that nock fit and string material should not be overlooked.
PisolPete, you may not be adding weight but moving it closer to the center of the string, 1/4 to 1/3 points, can effect tune.
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True. Though I hope anyone tuning his bow has already gone through setting it up completely!
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Mine was 60" and it shot quietly without a bow quiver.I did put a nice set of wool puffs on the string and it dampened out any string vibration
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And, you can tie on the hush puppies so they're easily adjustable, rather that tie them into the string.
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Figuring it all out, piece by piece. I'm going to make up some wool puffs tonight and add them before buying any other silencers, for the moment.
I do absolutely love the bow. Feels great, points well, and I've been shooting it rather well!
Thank you for all the tips!
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So true Pete, but op already has arrows set up and was pointing out he recheck tune once he is finished his adjustments.
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I use 100% wool yarn puff balls on my Kanati and it is very quiet.
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String leeches on both of mine
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Two tracks wool string scallops. Work great and you can easily move them up and down the string to find the best position. On my longbows I use one on top and bottom and recurves I use 2 on top and bottom. One at 1/4 and one at 1/3 and go from there and move to find queitest position. Love those scallops.
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I second the scallops. Effective and easy.
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For most quiet, I'm still in the wool puffs camp. Real, 100% wool... hush puppies currently in use, also had excellent results with Bateman puffs (which led me to the hush puppies).
If you tie them on, rather than into the string, they're easy to adjust.
Had a bow that came with the scallops. They were very clean on the string, and easy to adjust, but cat whiskers were more quiet. And the Bateman puffs were more quiet than the whiskers.
I guess, like so much of this stuff... it depends.