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Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: Rando on July 16, 2016, 08:59:00 AM
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So I'm gonna try single-bevels this year, I've primarily been a three-blader to date. Just looking for a decent/proven head design for the whitetails I hunt - not in a position to break the bank for the solid stock machined heads, though I'm sure they're worth every penny.
Like the looks of the Grizzly's or the Magnus single-bevels Simply Traditional announced. Looking for any thoughts & feedback on performance & durability between the two. I believe the Grizzly's are all tanto tips...?
thanks for any input, Rando
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I'd vote grizzly.
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If I were changing (I'm not) between these two it would be the Griz. I've shot single bevel since 2010 and wouldn't change. I won't name it here out of respect for the thread and
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I have 2 Grizzlies in the back of my GN quiver, and 3 Magnus single bevels across the front.
Steve will probably be posting results of my testing sometime soon. Short answer from my iPhone is the Grizzlies had 50% increased penetration shooting into a Mckenzie target.
I killed a hog with the Magnus last week,very happy with its performance. I intend to use it this fall for pronghorn and deer. I will keep those Grizzlies for any BIG hogs I might happen into.
I don't think you can lose with either, but buy them early and start learning the nuances of sharpening this style of blade.
There is my two cents.
Thom
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Id personally choose the grizzly. Absolutely love mine.
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I think the Grizzly has thicker steel so the bevel is longer giving more rotational force. It's also a longer head giving good flight characteristics. I use the 185 Grizzly which has very thick steel. It passes through effortlessly with little resistance. Deer sometimes only run a few steps and just stand there before falling over.
That being said the best shot and kill I ever had was a cedar shaft and 125 grain double bevel magnus. (before single bevels were available). I killed a buck at a good 45 yards plus. That arrow flew like a laser and hit the buck perfectly in the heart angled forward and passed through the shoulder into a tree. The deer went 50 yards. How could a head do any better than that? I'm not sure why I don't use that set up now!
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I've got some from simply traditional, those magnus and they fly great. Very solid! Very affordable . Why not buy both?
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Randy, sent you an email
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Im no help.
I like them both and usually carry 3 and 2 in a mixed quiver depending on what Im hunting.
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Have not had my hands on a Magnus ,but sell a ton of Grizzlies with no complaints.Could not imagine Magnus putting a head on the market that was not up to snuff in quality.So it looks like a decision of which design trips your trigger the most.
Terry
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I'm with Terry, don't have any of the Magnus single but have had great luck with the double Magnus. They are great heads, that being said. I have taken several hogs this past year with the Grizzly single bevel and have had outstanding performance on big tough hogs with them. I will be using the 200 Kodiak from Grizzly this fall on my Maine moose hunt in October. Where I was lucky enough to get one of 5 Penobscot Indian land moose tags!
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mike that sounds fun,, you should film it so we can watch you take one with one of your selfbows.
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Honestly just do "rock, paper, scissors" - you can't go wrong. Have experience only with the grizzly. It is sharp, 2 blade, in the right place it will do its work. Sure a sharp Magnus will do the same.
J
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I bought some Grizzlies this past spring and have been shooting them. I love the way they fly, and I've managed to get a pretty stinkin' good edge on them for what that's worth.
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Poor Randy, I think we were supposed to make this easy on him :biglaugh:
Mike, best of luck to you on that moose hunt! I really look forward to reading the story down the trail a bit!
Thom
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Shot them both and a few more. I went with grizzly and cutthroat. They are both in my quiver and shoot the same. I have magnus but the didn't make the cut for my rough terain. Had a few bust open on some bust open at the brazeing after a few coyote pass throughs.
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Here's one from back in the winter in Texas with a Grizzly head on a boar hog. Through the shield and buried in the ground on the other side.
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Ok, I carry and love the Grizzly heads and like Thom and a few others I will continue to shoot and use Grizzlies.
I contacted Biscuit Smith regarding the Magnus single bevel because both myself and a few of my customers had asked about a wider option for Single Bevel heads that were affordable. After some back and forth with Mr. Smith he agreed he would build them for Simply Traditional based on the 160 grain Magnus Classic. The additional width being the primary advantage.
As others have stated both are awesome heads, I can tell little difference in flight between the two. I have taken a lot of animals with Magnus Classics, and several animals with Grizzlies and both will perform well. There are a few dollars difference between the two brands but that is about it. The Magnus Single Bevels are $36 plus shipping and the Grizzlies can go as high $52 depending on weight.
I will be primarily shooting the Magnus this fall, hopefully there will be a few blood trails from this new single bevel design.
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I have 6 of the Magnus and I think I will stick with the Grizzlies and Cutthroats. I don't like the way they sharpen up. Mine will hit the classifieds soon.
D.P.
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The Magnus heads are fine and will kill animals I'm sure, but they are too thin and too wide to rotate well in flesh and bust bone like the Grizzlies and similar.
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I prefer Grizzies. Sharpening a single bevel Magnus will be the same as sharpening a Zwickey No Mercy, due to the triple lamination of the tip area.
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Dave, I'm guessing you are talking about that point where it steps down from the triple lamination? That part gave me trouble initially with my sharpening jig. Going to a freehand file and strop got me back to popping hair.
Pete, ,I thought I had a picture already uploaded somewhere of my S cut entrance wound on that hog but it's not out there. You are right, it is less pronounced, but the hole is 50% wider. Being a liver shot, I was very happy to have the extra cutting width to really do the damage needed for a quick recovery.
Here's my take on the original question:
- most proven, clearly the Grizzly.
- worried about penetration, Grizzly for sure.
- if you consistently blow through animals and want a wider cut, Magnus SB is my current choice.
I have no vested interest in either of them, just trying to help out.
Thom
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Hey Thom - I have no doubts they kill animals well. Glad they have worked for you and congrats on the hog! I am just trying to point out that, according to Ashby, penetration in bone is the biggest wildcard in a killing shot or not on large game (elk and up for me). In that case, one would want a narrower head like the Grizz.
Of course in smaller game (deer and under), I'd just use a 3-blade broadhead :)