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Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: stickbow24 on October 22, 2016, 05:32:00 PM
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Problem: I am over bowed. Realized it last year but didn't do anything about it. Now this season I am having same problems with fatigue which are amplified in the cold tree stand.
Solution is to invest in a different bow. I am currently shooting a #60 Damon howatt 62 amo which I really like except for the weight. I also have a 50# nomad stalker which is 52 Amo which is too short to comfortably shoot.
I have a 45# Bear tiger at which I do not care for.
The goal is to shoot deer out to 20 yds. I would like 55# but probably should go with 50#. I have about a 27" draw so I am not shooting the full rating.
Budget is $300. I am not very picky with the look. I just want recommendations on the best bang for the buck.
Thank you.
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50 push-up per day and pull up how much you can . Because next year you will searching for 40# bow .
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Since you really like shooting it, sell the 60# Howatt and get a 50-55# Howatt of same model. Your budget would allow you to get a very nice used bow.
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Maddog Traditional Archery if you want one made for you. Primarily longbows, he may make a version of his lighter poundage recurves, not sure.
Samick Red Stag, or Sage, are very affordable, good shooting, one-piece recurves. Also, their take-downs are very good, as well - with variable poundage limbs. You could get a take-down, with a second set of limbs, for sub-$300.
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But his drawlenght is 27" , he already pull 57-58 . Bow lenght 62" .....
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Originally posted by Blackhawk:
Since you really like shooting it, sell the 60# Howatt and get a 50-55# Howatt of same model. Your budget would allow you to get a very nice used bow.
You might really like a 55ish lb bow. I really like my 62 pound TallTines for elk but would rather be shooting in the high 50s for deer and tournaments. I can't bring myself to shoot anything under 55 pounds, just don't like the trajectory with hunting weight arrows
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"probably should go with #50." If this is true, do it! You don't lose anything by deer hunting with a #50 bow. Being over bowed is bad, hunting with a #50 bow is not.
Consider a 3 piece take down. A samick sage or a greatree Highlander will cost you $150 or less and then you can get another set of limbs and still be under $300. I have owned both bow and they are fine shooters. Get a set of 45 lbs limbs for form work anf your later years, Get a 50 or 55 lb set for hunting.
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Originally posted by Blackhawk:
Since you really like shooting it, sell the 60# Howatt and get a 50-55# Howatt of same model. Your budget would allow you to get a very nice used bow.
Exactly what I was thinking. Howatt Hunters are great shooting bows. Your choice as to 50 or 55#, but I can tell you that a 5# reduction will make a world of difference. If you can sell your 60# bow and add those funds to your $300 you could get one of each! :thumbsup:
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For $300, you will not beat the Maddog. He makes recurves and longbows, however you want them. Clear glass is extra. If I had to nit-pick them, I think the finish could be better. What do you expect for the money though? These bows shoot hard and fast, with velvety smoothness, and the bows at even 45lbs cast an arrow flat and fast.
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You cannot as I'm retired, on a fixed income, and need every penny I have. Good luck in your quest.
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Wouldn't bother me a bit to drop to 50. If that reduction better fits you and protects/promotes proper form, it will bother your quarry to death.
The classifieds here are a great place to shop. You can put a WTB there and ideas will come your way. I know, some will point to the $30 contributor/admission fee to the classifieds, but....you'll get that back quick when you get a $500-700 bow for less than half price. AND you'll be dealing with someone who will be rooting for you!
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Sent you a pm.
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You're a perfect candidate for a 62" Maddog prairie predator longbow. 50# will scream an arrow
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A Samick 50# would be a quick fix. I've got a couple friends that love their Samick bows.
A Maddog bow is a good way to go or glean the classifieds.
50 pounds will keep your form consistent and shooting fun.
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I have a 60" 50lbs. Howatt Coranado with a stabilizer bushing someone added and it also has 2 small screws in the belly side of the sight window. It's sitting here and I'll never shoot it. Be more than happy to work a deal with you for the Browning.
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Better yet,,,,,you cover the shipping and you can have it. If it's not your thing, pass it on. Shoot me a pm if your interested.
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The new one piece Samick Sage recurve is an excellent bow. I got mine from Lancaster Archery to my door for under $200.
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Thanks everyone for input. Ken, I sent you 2 PMs. I also looking into other bows mentioned.
Getting excited. Still excited to finish this season with current bow but looking forward to the adventures of a different bow.
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You can always look for a vintage Bear too. The are is nothing wrong with the Grayling Bears, and they can be had at good prices.
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There are many viable options within your budget to acquire a bow that you are most comfortable, proficient and lethal.
Several solid recommendations have been formerly submitted.
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Something to think about. You say you are overbowed. If you drop down to 50 # , your form could improve and your draw length could increase. I've seen it happen quite a few times.
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Whatever you do, don't keep shooting if you are overbowed. It leads to bad habits (guess how I know that!). Rather than trying to work into it, at this point you need a bow that is comfortable at the outset to get your form established. I hunt with 45# bows now due to age and find I have lost nothing where hunting is concerned compared to heavier bows. I am able to control the shot process better and the hogs, antelope, deer, and bears I have shot haven't complained--at least about the poundage of my bow! :D
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Sent ya a reply young man.
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I wouldn't presume to tell you what you will enjoy more. I can only offer my experience.
I worked down in draw weight from 85-90# to 70#, to 65#, to 62#, then to 55#, finally to a bunch of bows in the 40-50# range. As I dropped in weight my draw length expanded from 28" to 31". With a longer draw comes more power, so keep that in mind, but I killed three deer in the last two years with longbows pulling 45-50#. Even with big Simmons broadheads I've been getting pass throughs, with last year being a 2" wide Tree Shark blowing through a huge bodied buck. I've been shooting the slimmer Tiger Sharks now which penetrate even better, so have been using 45# or so with full confidence.
Unless I get a chance at elk or something big like that, I don't see myself shooting more. A 45# bow just works for me, and is a joy to shoot even when I'm freezing my behind off. I can pick up after days off, even exhausted or sore, and hit the mark even out to twenty-five and thirty yards cold shot (farther than I'd shoot at an animal). It doesn't hit as hard as a heavier bow, of course, but at this point I'm still driving arrows into dirt on the other side of the animal.
The difference in draw length would be the same as 5# weight. So the performance I get from 45# you'd see from 50#. Lots of people really do well with 50#, and there's a reason it's kind of the baseline for hunting weights.
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My arm spread is just barely 70" at full stretch, I draw 26.25". My draw length does not change whether I am shooting uphill or downward. Everyone has that one right draw length, longer is not always better. I would suggest the OP keep his heavier bow as an exercise tool and get a 50 pound at his correct draw. A Maddog Prairie Predator is a good bow.
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I have nothing bad to say about any of the options mentioned. Personally, i don't think you can find a better deal than a sammick sage. I have one at the house and with a new string(a must), you'll have one of the best shooting bows you'll ever own. I have owned several high end bows and the sammick isn't a slouch in anything except looks, but i've never met a deer that cared.
With a new string, wraps and silencers, it'll be hard to beat that bow for $500.
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Consider finding a comfortable weight bow that you can work with (say 40-45#) and then adjusting arrow weight depending on the game you're hunting. A 600+ grain arrow is hard to stop at any speed. Whether you shoot gap or instinctive, you can easily accommodate a slower arrow from 0-20 yards. I shoot a 45# Samick Sage, drawn to 27" with a 605 gr arrow and my gaps are:
10 yards -- 12"
15 yards -- 15"
20 yards -- 9"
25 yards -- PO
So 0-20 is "minute of deer" with the same POA. I'd be reluctant to chase a larger elk, moose or grizzly with this setup. But I see no problem with our Tule elk, mule deer or wild pig. That arrow is still probably travelling faster than most >50# self bows. Put in the right spot, it will still probably out-penetrate my .308.
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I'll have to say I agree completely with KeganM. Due to a shoulder injury I've dropped to the mid 40's and have never enjoyed shooting more. My draw length increased a good inch too.