Trad Gang
Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: Frenchymanny on February 21, 2017, 07:09:00 PM
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Out of curiosity, I did a little test:
I lighted a nock on Feb 5th.
Today, Feb 21st, the light is still on, faint but visible in the dark.
Amazing performance!
F-Manny
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love those things
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Best lighted nocks on the market, of the ones I have tried.
Bisch
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Yes I love them.....
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Great product. I am shocked they stayed lit so long, just tells me I need another pack before the company catches on.
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They are everything I use, very dependable; but I never suspected they could last that long.
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Wow. Lot longer than I would have thought. Expected hours, not days. Thanks for sharing.
I think these things are cool and on video they are really cool but I am bit lost on why folks use them.
Frankly, I don't think I have lost more than an arrow or two (very small percentage of shots anyway) and most of the time the arrow isn't in the animal anymore so what do they do for you folks that use them. If it is just cool that is ok as I have nothing against cool or fun factors either. Just don't really understand the value.
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In low light situations it really helps in tracking. Especially with hogs. I have shot at hogs and have no idea which way it went after the shot. A lighted nock down the trail is good indication which way the animal traveled after the hit.
My only complaint about Nocturnal is the need for a knife or something pointed and thin to turn it off and with my aging eyes I have to do with my glasses on. I hate that.
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Shot my first animal with one this year. A great help in seeing where you hit during low light conditions. Also assists in finding arrow and/or game. Did a "coon shoot" at ETAR last year using them, would have lost 2 arrows without them.
I also like using them in the late evening during backyard practice to learn "the trajectory of the arrow".
Love them!
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Love mine as well. All my arrows are getting them for the upcoming caribou hunt
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I have some of these. I take them off the bow on AM hunts once it gets good and light.
I've never shot an animal with one on the string though (missed a deer last year with one on -- sort of a bummer watching that little light laughing at my miss stuck there in the dirt with a few white hairs! :confused:
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I think the package says they last 20 hours. My son has them and pretty sure that's what I read.
Hap
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I did put off the very very faint light today!
The result of this test: You will have a few days to find your arrow. And for a couple of days, it will be very bright.
I would not hunt without one where it's legal. One might shoot at lunch time and be still tracking at night.
F-Manny
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with hogs its more likely that the arrow will stay in for a little ways if not all the way to the end of the recovery . Its not all about loosing arrows but loosing game for me.
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I'm late to the party. I've never shot lighted nocks.
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Thanks for all the comments BTW.
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I have them on all my arrows strictly for helping me see where I hit and tracking. On my judo arrow I shot them as well so I can find my arrow if buried under something. I lost two arrows in Kansas without lighted nocks.
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are these traditional?
(tongue in cheek) as I know several people don't support them because they are an advancement in technology. I don't know that I can agree to their point. Yes, they are technology, but they're also designed to help with game recovery, which should be all of our main objective, right?
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In my mind and the reason I use them is comparable to a string tracker. It helps me make a better decision on whether to track right away or wait because I can see my shot better and if the arrow goes with the animal it helps me find the animal I just shot.
There are two things that tie my guts in a knot. Wounding an animal or losing one I know is going to die. This helps me avoid those two situations.
There are people on this site that use the string trackers and although I have never used one, I can sure see where they would be a good thing when a turkey takes off flying with your arrow.
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There is a lot of thinks we use that aren't traditional but we still use them.
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I'm about the most traditional person I know! I make my own laminated recurve bows, make my own strings, make my own fletching out of turkeys I beg from friends, do my own butchering of meat, do my own taxidermy, and make my own knives to butcher! With that said I USE carbon arrows and lighted nocks. Specifically Nocturnals! I can't imagine hunting without them! To each their own.
So I guess I fall out of the realm for trad police! So be it! Been at this "trad" thing for about 40 years now!
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I'm not trying to be " traditional ", just trying to be me :goldtooth:
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I left one laying on my bench for 2 weeks and it was still bright enough you could see it in the dark from a good distance..they last a really long time.
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Just got a pack to try and was shooting them last night! love them! they are awesome.
ordering some more packs today
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I've used them off and on thru the years. On two different occasions on solo bowhunts I found deer that I shot that otherwise would have been a grid search in the daylight. Steep shot angle on both that resulted in one hole going in and none coming out and no blood trail to speak of.
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They don't help you shoot better but they do help with what you shot! Right?
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For nighttime training they are fun.
For hunting? No thanks.
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I like them but they clash with my loin cloth and clam shell knife.
I enjoy the romantic aspect's of traditional archery/ hunting but there is a place for technology.
Without it we'd still be in a loin cloth with stone tools.
Just don't let technology take the place of skill.
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quote:
Originally posted by drewsbow:
I'm not trying to be " traditional ", just trying to be me :clapper: :clapper:
F-Manny
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Originally posted by longbow fanatic 1:
I'm late to the party. I've never shot lighted nocks.
It's really cool!
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Originally posted by Frenchymanny:
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Originally posted by drewsbow:
I'm not trying to be " traditional ", just trying to be me :clapper: :clapper:
F-Manny
Excellent, my sentiment exactly Drew.
Really like the nocturnal's.
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I hadn't used mine 4+ years due to surgery and loss of my hog hunting lease. Shot one of my hog arrows with the Noctural nock the other day and still working after just sitting all that time!
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I have never used them. How do they effect the spine of the arrow? I assume they would stiffen the spine. Can you take one of your tuned arrows and just place the nock in and go for it or do you have to tune using them?
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I've shot my some of my best 3d rounds when someone in the group shoots with these nocks, but only if they shoot accurately. The lighted nock just recently became legal to use in Colorado archery season, but I don't know why it was outlawed in the first place.
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no extra tuning needed , just plug and play
How have you been Gery ?
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I feel my wallet getting lighter.
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I don't always shoot them but they really help in low light to see where you hit. Here's a hunt that I self filmed where the luminock made it easy to see the hit especially for the viewers watching the footage.
https://youtu.be/X6ptIzpJmEA
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So what are your favorite lighted nocks?
Never used them before.
How many grains are they?
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Doing well Drew, waiting on turkey season.
sightsee, nocturnals are highly thought of here. I have tried others but come back to them.
Broken arrows, as long as your setup well tuned its plug and play like drew said. Never had to adjust tune for the nocturnal nock.
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is there a preferred color? Does one color show up better than the others?
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"Is there a preferred color? Does one color show up better than the others?"
I experimented with red and green Nocturnals while shooting 3D and found the green ones to show up much better (for me).
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I like green but the red is good as well
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I love the way the blue looks,but think the red shows up the best. I like the green too,but not as much as the red.
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Green all the way.! It is so much brighter than red and blue.
Really helps when shooting a deer- no more guesses during low light situations
I killed a buck this year/ arrow went through and broke off .
My nockturnal stayed on while wedged in chest cavity.
I won’t hunt without them.
Josh
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I used red for the first time using a lighted nock this year. It was great! My old eyes have trouble following an arrow some times and I was able to see exactly where the arrow entered my buck. I'll never hunt without one after seeing how great they work.
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I make my own bows, my own strings, my own wild turkey fletching etc but I LOVE NOCTURNAL nocks. They are awesome.
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On one hunt, I shot a pig that started running in the night with my arrow. After a while, I left the blind and went to the shot location: I could see the nock at about 300 or 400 yards in the Georgia winter night. I walked there and found my dead pig.
It was magical. For me, no hunt without a nockturnal, even in day light. You can always go back at night to find your game :)
F-Manny
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I love the nocturnals. They do stay on for days. Remember you can use the tip of another broadhead to turn them off.
When we move in on an animal after seeing the nock at night, we will study the nock from a distance with binoculars to check for movement. This has caused us to back out of a few occasions.
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I tried both Nocturnals and lumenocks this year and they both worked great. I think I liked the Nockturnals better. No change in tune for me, a few extra grains on a heavy foc arrow made no difference. On the nocturnals I did have to sand them a bit to get the same fit as the nocks I practice with.
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I won't hunt pigs at night without them. Shoot a pig at night in a group and have them scatter!... there's no telling what direction your pig went or even no telling if you hit it or not. Chances are he won't even bleed for 30 to 50 yards or more.
With the nocturnal, it will light the night and you can not only see the hit if that is what happens, but you can get an idea of what direction "your" pig takes off in. If it takes your arrow with it, even better.
I shoot heavier bows and arrows than most and the pigs usually carry my arrows at least a little way... sometimes to their death bed.
Nocturnal is the only brand we sell.
BigJim
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I tried experimenting with these 6 years ago on my AD Trad Lites. Worked well, but I had to sand them down significantly to fit the small inside diameter of the shafts.
I enjoyed trying them, but had a problem that made me stop considering them. The plastic of the nock seemed "soft", and from just resting on my lap in the bow quiver, the nock "bent" out of line from the weight of the bow and was no longer aligned with the shaft. Looked a bit like "the arrow designed to shoot around the corner"!
It was possible to hand straighten them back into line, but away on an elk hunt I couldn't take a chance the they weren't shooting to normal point of impact. I pulled them off and reinstalled my Easton G Nocks.
With all you guys using them recently, has anyone noticed a similar problem? I would love to try them again, but need to be sure they are solid and trustworthy. I assume my difficulty was from early manufacture or a questionable lot of plastic.
All the good comments here made me curious once again...
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I've had no issues except some employees helping themselves to nocks without paying... well not Preacher because he shoots wood and the epitome of honesty! and the ladies don't shoot.
BigJim
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No flashlight for me. When I follow a blood trail at night, I only use a flaming torch for lighting the way. :) Now for the truth...I like lighted nocks and I use a flashlight.
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Ha! Thank you, BigJim!
I am thinking that with your woodworking expertise you could mill a special set of douglas fir shafts to accept the Nockturnals for Preacher. Maybe something based on your takedown system. Well, maybe you shouldn't.
While I am pure as the driven... slush... and would also never "help myself," you might provide a temptation too great for Preacher to bear and put a dent in his "epitome"!
Thanks for the perspective on the nocks. Probably need to make another run at them some time. Makes me think. though, that if you end up putting a $12 nock and a $10 carbon shaft with a $13 broadhead, a guy may be slower to take a potshot at a pesky squirrel high overhead. Preacher likely does not have THAT problem with a wood arra!
:rolleyes: Daryl
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I have shot a doe with one...lost the trad feel but might do it again in the right situation.
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I tried them a couple of years back to see what all the buzz was about. Kinda cute, gadgety, but sure didn't make my hunt. 'Course, I don't hunt pigs.
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I remember shooting at a yote one morning and missed by just a hair at a dead sprint. It was with my oldest Nocturnals and I couldn’t find it that morning in a wide open pasture. I’d figured I’d lost a very expensive arrow/broadhead combo. That evening I was walking past the point and it shone like beacon.
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About 10 years ago I was hunting on Thunder Child Indian reservation for spring bear and got permission to shoot a beaver out in front of the lodge. After two near misses off of the dock, I was tired of loosing expensive arrows... I drove them in to the lake bottom.
That night I thought.. I wonder if the nocks will be lit? sure enough. Those happened to be luminoks, but they remained lit for 3 nights under water.
One of the Indian guides offered to retrieve the arrows for two packs of cigarettes. When I realized he would be riding home in my seat in the truck after the retrieval ...soaking wet and I would likely have to endure that for a day or two, I said, no thanks.
BigJim
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Cool story but with my experience I'm surprised luminoks even lite. Nocturnal for me works great every time.
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Yes, I've had issues with luminoc too. Nocturnals all the way for me now.
BigJim
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What size fits a 2016 aluminum? How about an 1820 aluminum? Chad
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Sorry Chad, I can't help you on Aluminum. Just too many nocks to stock as it is with the carbons. Decided not to fool with aluminum from the git go.
BigJim
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Chad,
Looks like they do fit 'some' aluminums. A couple sizes of x7, xx75 and xx78 but not many are listed in the sizing chart http://www.nockturnal.com/size-chart/. Also take a look at their Universal Nock that comes with different bushings. OR call the company.
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I don't like lighted nocks.
I took an ill advised shot through some brush. The nock showed how the arrow was deflected, and the broadhead was driven into the base of a tree.
Every time I looked that direction for the rest of the day, that d%#m red nock kept reminding me of my stupidity. :dunno:
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I shot 2 deer Nov 10th, arrows stayed in deer but kicked out along the blood trail somewhere. I didnt find them(arrows). A few days later I got a call from a friend that he found them both in the dark coming out. Love them
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Learned this fall that on a pass through they're great at telling you where the deer was...