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Topic Archives => How To - Resources => Topic started by: trashwood on March 17, 2005, 08:02:00 PM
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Ya need a 6" Japanese backed fine cut saw. a drill motor....well and some sand paper (we ain't counting that as a tool. go to woodcrafters and by some 1/8" thick black walnut. use a square board as a sawing guide and cut these out
1 - 2&1/2x1&3/4" bottom
2 - 2&1/2x7/8" long sides
2 - 1&5/8"x7/8" ends
2 - 1&3/4"x15/16" tops pieces so ya get a 5/8" sound hole
just use butt joints and glue the end piece inside the side pieces. get them square as ya can. when dry glue the bottom to the sides and end. at the same time ya can glue the two top pieces on the top so that it leave a 5/8" slot in the middle of the top
i got a piece of slat at the rock shop and cut a 1&3/16"x2". I found a seam and busted it into thinner pieces. i took one of the peices to the belt sanders and thinned it to 3/16" thick. so i got a 1&3/16"x2"x3/16". now glue it on the top over the sound slot and equal distance from each end getting.......
(http://www.trashwoodbow.com/texassweat/turkcall1.jpg)
(http:// http://www.trashwoodbow.com/texassweat/turkcall2.jpg)
(http://www.trashwoodbow.com/texassweat/turkcall3.jpg)
not near as neat or versital as 4nolz's but ya have to have few tools. if ya want to build on ya might check the source that he gave in his excellent build along.
I found that if ya drill a 1/2" hole 2" deep into your stricker and use a 1/4" hickory dowel it gives ya a much better sound. drill a 1/4" guide hole first in your sticker 2&1/2" deep. then use tape and mark 2" on your half drill and use the quide hole to drill 2" deep 1/2" hole. put your dowel in the hole, press it in the 1/4" end of the 1/2" hole. cut your dowell so an 1" extends out.
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sorry I left out the pic of the botton
(http://www.trashwoodbow.com/texassweat/turkcall2.jpg)
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so really ya jsut building a non-jointed box with a hole (slot really) in the top. I made it this size so I could carry it in my pocket. now really the sound is not bad when compared to our hens in the area.
rusty
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if ya did want to carry your striker in your pocket ya could make the call with one tool a saw. ya'd jsut have to make the sticker longer.
rusty
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I found the tone was impovered if I put some sand paper on a board and sand the sides down to 1/16". since the ends are glued inside ends of the side ya can do this after the box is together. semms like it gave it a little better volume and a little better pitch. if ya have a good ear and make a few let me know what wood thickness gave the best sound. I got a tin ear. it hasn't bothered the turks any. they seem to think it sounds fine :)
rusty
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Nice call.
I agree with 4nolz.
My fathers favorite call is an old Jet Slate....some of the best purrs I've ever heard.
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Rusty,
Add a belt clip to the back of the box and you can work it one-handed....
Bow in one hand, striker in the other, turkey music as they come off the roost...life is good.
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good idea Jeff. i hadn't thought of that. thanks
rusty
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now this call is a no brainer to build (well everthing I build is a no brainer). ya use the three wing bones in a turkey wing. the big one that joins to the body adn the two articulated right below that one. ya leave the smallest b one pretty long. cut off the two ends, the next biggest articulated bone ya take the bellow like end and a lenght of about 2&1/2". the largest single bone is the bell on your call. cut it off with a good bit of bell (like a tgrumpet bell) for a length of about 2" or 3". clean the marrow out. grind the bone network out of your bell. now fit all three together by grinding or filing the inside and outside to make the fit. when ya get a good fit, epoxy the 3 bones in place. ya can sand it nice, decorate it, out a lanyard on it.
to use the call ya getting press it inot your bootm lip with the hole in the wingbone positioned jsut under the air passing into your lip and suck. when ya start getting a sound, sound like a turkey. :)
(http://www.trashwoodbow.com/texassweat/wingnutcall.jpg)
to build it it is easiest to a dremel tool with a various grinding and sanding bits (one tool) and ya need sumpin to saw bone pretty finely (two tools). ya can just use a cutoff wheel on you dremel tool
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of course to build this one ya got to have shot a turkey....kinda of catche 22 ain't it :)
rusty
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no wonder i like spring turk'n so much. ya go around scratching and sucking. i been doing that bofore my menory starts :) .
if your box don't turn out square, it don't matter. fiddle box ain't square and it sound pretty good. just sand off the egdes so it don't grab on stuff.
if you bone to bone fit is not great, don't worry just fill it the cracks with epoxy and bone dust.
rusty
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very nice. Can't wait to get into those woods and call
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OK so we got our 3 wing bones fitted together. Now degrease the joints with acetone. mix up some epoxy and mix it with some of bone meal ya saved. now just putty 'em together.
(http://www.trashwoodbow.com/texassweat/wingnutcall2.jpg)
(http://www.trashwoodbow.com/texassweat/wingnutcall3.jpg)
(http://www.trashwoodbow.com/texassweat/wingnutcall4.jpg)
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the wing bone ya suck on :) is kinda oval but there is one side flatter than the other sided. I put the flat side agianst my bottom lip. seems to work more consistant for me.
(http://www.trashwoodbow.com/texassweat/wingnutcall5.jpg)
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I am no expert by a long ways. I got a tape and listened to 'at turkey caller. Heck fire I got all confused about what a yap, yelp, perk, a purr was......so i just got my call and went to where turkeys were. I listened to them and did what they did. I still don't know a yap from a dust devil but I make da sounds they make :)
BUUUTTT the thing ya need to know is it ain't hard at all. ya can get 'em toms coming and talking to ya. that in itself is such a hoot.
i can get caught up in chatting with 'em turks and almost forget I'm hunting
get out there and just do it!
rusty
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the turkey is the "charley brown's" bowhunting trophy. most of us don't have to drive day and night to get to them, they are a real challenge to take with a trad bow. a nice tom is as good a trad bow trophy as ya can get.
rusty
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oh a recent hunt to south Texas we had Rio Grande turkey every where. It was season yet but ya could still practice talking 'em up. now in some states that could be unlawful. I'm not sure about Texas :) . heck fire I was just have a little talk with 'em.
we were cleaning a pig when 7 or 8 Rio jakes came by. the two hunters i was with both starting talking to them and getting them turn our way just talking turkey with no calls at all. :) how did they do that???
rusty
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heck fire rusty, yer handier than a pocket on a shirt. thanks for sharing!
kyle
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No Kyle not handy much at all. that is why i pick the no brainer projects :)
rusty
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Rusty,
With a wing bone call, you said "I put the flat side agianst my bottom lip. seems to work more consistant for me."
Is that the "right" way, or is there a right way. I've made a couple of them and have learned to make a passable yelp with one, but I use my upper lip. What I have learned has been trial and error, since I don't know anyone who uses one, or even wants to use one.
Just wondering about technique, since I have heard that you can actually make a gobble with one. I can yelp and putt reasonably well, at least I got the birds to answer a time or two during deer season and want to get better.
Who is good at this, and is there a video that will teach the technique?
Marvin
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Marvin - i press the sound pipe into my bottom lip but you are correct, the top lip is the "reed". I don't know if there is a right or wrong way but press the flattest side of the oval to my lip is more consistant for me. it will make sounds on any side but some ways are a little harder to get a good yelp. I like you just figured it out myself, so if ya come up with sumpin good let me know....or if any of ya guys is exerpt at it help us out here :)
rusty
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Rusty,
You the man :bigsmyl:
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Cool Call Rusty.... Now if I can just get drawn for the darn things.... I'm batting 0 for 8 here .... Terry
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OK how ya coming?? oh ya can't find no dang slate in your town. ya been to the rock shops, the landscaping rock place, the aquarimum rock place and they got not slate????? turkey seasons si coming and ya don't have no time to do no dang order for slate......oh well why didn't ya tell me! :)
stop by home depot and get ya cheap glass cutter. stop by the glass shop and see if they have some 1/8" thick plate glass (they will if not go to the picture framing shop and buy an 8x10 piece of picture frame glass).
ok take it home. now crave ya out a striker. use a hickory dowel about 6" long it ya can't find nothing else. i like privet as a one piece striker. very dense, real close grain
take your glass and get your orbital sander. put on some 60 grit. (ware gloves and a dust mask) "etch" and end of the glass by sanding it with 60 grit. after a run is complete frost to the same density, try it with your sticker. if will be loud. like a hen on steriods. change grits of sand paper till ya fell ya got a good tooth on your glass. when ya do use your glass cutter and cut a piece of "toothed" glass 2"x1&5/8". waring your gloves and dust mask sand the edges a bit round, round the conners a bit and toothe the bottom of the blade to hold the glue to glue it on your box.
(http://www.trashwoodbow.com/texassweat/wingnutcall6.jpg)
rusty
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etched glass (toothed in our case) give ya a loud, boomer, sharp call. I think it is best used for distance. i have a hard time toning glass done to that close in "come hither big boy" call but I can flat knock him of the roost. :)
rusty
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we do want to ware out dust mask sanding glass. silca compounds in your lungs casues some serious tissue issues :) .
gloves ain't a bad idea either.
rusty
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when I first got started using a sractch box, I was hunting with an old tuckeyh call hand. I wa having a little trouble with my slate even after I toothed it. he took myh striker and burned the very tip with is zippo. oh man made such a smoother tone. i never really figured out what exactly burning the tip of your wood stiker for slate (glass) does but it works.
rusty
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I have now told ya all i know and then made some stuff up :) . Ya'as now a expert. get after it :help: go make some trukeyh sweet talk.
rusty
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Rusty,
Way too cool.....
Just a question, does plexi glass work?????
Just curious.
Nick
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hmm Nick, I don't know???? wonder if it's worth a try. if might not be hard enough to keep from marking it with your stiker.
let me know if ya try it :)
rusty
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Rusty,
I'll try it tomorrow. I have sime plexi in the garage.
Nick
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Nick
I tried some plexi glass this morning. I had to used very fine sand paper to get a tooth on it. it did talk turkey but would not hold the tooth very long at all so it lost it's squeek. I think there are different densities of plexi glass but the one i had was not satisfactory. how did yours turn out.
the best glass I have is some pyrex that a friend of mine sand blasted. very consistant and tuff for glass. i have grits in sand blastering also. not sure what grit she used. she is a glass artist, stained glass, etched glass, etc. heee heee I wonder what colors she has :)
rusty
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If ya'as is seriuos about turkey hunting, there is nothing (IMO) that beats a mouth read. no hands, can tone it down or kick it up making it very practicle for the trad bow hunter.
I had to pratice a bit with mine before i got it down solid. I have to buy 2 or 3 a year cause i lose them somehow. so for nevr lost a scratch box.
rusty
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geeez what a dumby make that mouth reed duh
rusty
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Rusty,
check your e-mail
Nick
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ttt