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Title: Tying on Fur Tracers...Fly Tying 101
Post by: tippit on February 18, 2010, 09:33:00 AM
I've had a number of guys PM me about tying on fur arrow tracers.  So here goes...Fly Tying 101 for the Trad Gang bowhunter  :)

I use cross cut rabbit strips (Zonker strips) that you buy at any fly fishing store and a fly tying thread bobbin.  This is just for demo as I normally add my tracer fur after I've fletched my arrow.
 

  (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/tippit/Fur%20Arrow%20Tracers/FurTracers001.jpg)

I secure my arrow shaft to the table and wind on a thread base.  This gives the rabbit fur a good gripping surface once wound around the shaft.

  (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/tippit/Fur%20Arrow%20Tracers/FurTracers002.jpg)

  (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/tippit/Fur%20Arrow%20Tracers/FurTracers003-1.jpg)

Now just tie in the end of the fur.  I'll usually clip a little fur off the rabbit leather so the thread digs in to better secure the end.  Then wind the thread back to the staring point.

  (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/tippit/Fur%20Arrow%20Tracers/FurTracers007-1.jpg)

Take one wrap of the fur around the arrow shaft and wrap the thread over the strip to secure the end again.  If you are having problems with the fur getting in the way just wet your fingers and slick the fur to the shaft.  Clip off the remaining strip, tie the thread with a few half hitches or whip finish as you would finish off a fly, and seal the thread.  I use finger nail polish (Hard as Nails) cause it dries quick and that's what I use to seal my finished fly heads...but any glue or lacquer will work.

  (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/tippit/Fur%20Arrow%20Tracers/FurTracers009-1.jpg)

  (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/tippit/Fur%20Arrow%20Tracers/FurTracers013.jpg)  

Finished...quick and indestructible.  I know you can glue on these strips but I've found they don't stand up as well on pass thru shots on targets...be it foam or the real thing.  I like the fur tracers cause I can use dark/camo fletching feathers and still see my arrow in flight even better than bright feathers.  Doc

  (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/tippit/Broadheads/Arrows004.jpg)
Title: Re: Tying on Fur Tracers...Fly Tying 101
Post by: Robhood23 on February 18, 2010, 09:36:00 AM
Very cool bud, this may be a dumb question but why do people put these on? Is it to watch the arrow flight?
Title: Re: Tying on Fur Tracers...Fly Tying 101
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on February 18, 2010, 09:42:00 AM
Like a tracer bullet...
Title: Re: Tying on Fur Tracers...Fly Tying 101
Post by: tippit on February 18, 2010, 09:48:00 AM
Robhood23,

For me anyway...

1)  I can see my arrow in flight better than bright feathers.  It's like watching a snow ball in flight.

2)  While still hunting, I've had hunting buddies say they they couldn't see me...but your Bright Feathers on the bow quiver shined out like beacon.  Now I don't think game animals see that...but I'm not taking any chance of it.  

3)  A lot of guys that also think this way will use fletching covers on their bow quivers.  For me they just seem to get hung up in thick cover.

4)  I also like natural turkey and goose feathers that are hard to see in flight...Doc
Title: Re: Tying on Fur Tracers...Fly Tying 101
Post by: rastaman on February 18, 2010, 10:02:00 AM
Thanks Doc!  i always used glue and ended up with a mess!  Thanks for "How to".
Title: Re: Tying on Fur Tracers...Fly Tying 101
Post by: Robhood23 on February 18, 2010, 10:03:00 AM
Been a few years since I tied any flies! Went and dug out the fly tying box, no rabbit so I am gonna head to the store and give this a shot! Always fun trying something new. Thanks for sharing Doc!
Title: Re: Tying on Fur Tracers...Fly Tying 101
Post by: Jeff Romans on February 18, 2010, 10:12:00 AM
Great picture tutorial.  I've tied a lot of flies and fletched a lot of arrows but never thought to cross the two hobbies.   Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Tying on Fur Tracers...Fly Tying 101
Post by: metsastaja on February 18, 2010, 10:17:00 AM
Thank you for taking the time to do the post.  I plan on doing a couple and give them a try. Next stop bass pro I like that little bobbin.
Title: Re: Tying on Fur Tracers...Fly Tying 101
Post by: JRY309 on February 18, 2010, 10:31:00 AM
Thats a great way of adding some tracers,makes those barred feathers more visible,nice job!
Title: Re: Tying on Fur Tracers...Fly Tying 101
Post by: Montauks on February 18, 2010, 10:41:00 AM
Thanks for the tute, I'll have to try that method
Title: Re: Tying on Fur Tracers...Fly Tying 101
Post by: Guru on February 18, 2010, 11:48:00 AM
Most excellent Doc    :notworthy:  

I just happen to have hundreds of dollors worth of fly tying equipment and supplies up in my attic that I haven't used in years.

This will be a fine addition to my arsenal when I get my self bow built and wood arrows with Doug Campbell Damasus trades and Woody Blackwell stoner's with nat. turkeys feathers. This will be a very natural addition to those arrows.

It's all coming together nicely...Good stuff bud!
Title: Re: Tying on Fur Tracers...Fly Tying 101
Post by: Over&Under on February 18, 2010, 12:24:00 PM
:clapper:     :clapper:

Excellent tutorial Doc!  I hope doing a few will rekindle my love of tying flies!!
Title: Re: Tying on Fur Tracers...Fly Tying 101
Post by: Charlie Lamb on February 18, 2010, 12:33:00 PM
Been using fur tracers for years Doc... of course not by your method... which seems very handy!

I too love natural turkey feathers but they are so hard to see in flight that I'm reluctant to shoot one at an animal without the tracer.
Sure makes confirming the hit A LOT easier.

  :wavey:
Title: Re: Tying on Fur Tracers...Fly Tying 101
Post by: swampdrummer on February 18, 2010, 12:40:00 PM
Very cool! Just last night I did up a couple with super glue and it  got messy real quick! Will have to give this a try.
Title: Re: Tying on Fur Tracers...Fly Tying 101
Post by: Chris Shelton on February 18, 2010, 12:56:00 PM
ahh bonding two of the most relaxing things in the world together.  Fly tying and archery!  Awesome, I am gonna have to give this a try.  I always thought that they will slow down the arrow, but the more and more I think of it, I disagree with myself, it is just rabbit fur.
Title: Re: Tying on Fur Tracers...Fly Tying 101
Post by: wapiti792 on February 18, 2010, 01:21:00 PM
Chris...relaxing? I tried tying some size 22 elk hair caddis for a trip into the smokies for small brookies this spring. The words that came outa my mouth and then the scolding I got from my wife led me to believe I wasn't relaxing!  :)  Now archery...that's relaxing! Thanks for the idea Doc! I got a rabit mask to tie hair's ear nymphs that will work great.
Title: Re: Tying on Fur Tracers...Fly Tying 101
Post by: tippit on February 18, 2010, 02:01:00 PM
Wapiti792,
That rabbit mask for hair's ear nymphs will only work well if it was soft tanned.  Most of my rabbit masks are raw hide and thus too stiff to wrap around the arrow shaft. Plus they are usually natural/dark color defeating the purpose of bright colored tracers.  You can pick up the cross cut rabbit cheap and in multiple colors.  One pack will tie up a lot of arrows.  Also you can use marabou but it doesn't hold up as well as rabbit.

I hear ya on the small flies...means Big Magnification and NO rough/hang nail hands to snag 8/0 thread for me   :knothead:    I much prefer tying up saltwater & salmon flies...Doc

PS:  I just happened to find this wild hook mouthed buck Cains River Atlantic Salmon on the end of my spey rod with one of my own designed flies...Errrr I meant to say while I was scouting for deer/bear sign in New Brunswick, Canada this past fall.  Moderators if you don't believe this, I understand the deletion  :)

  (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/tippit/Mirimachi%2009/McCullough59er--CrowCreekCopperhead.jpg)
Title: Re: Tying on Fur Tracers...Fly Tying 101
Post by: razorback on February 18, 2010, 02:04:00 PM
bear eat fish don't they. Looks like good bear sign to me  :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: Tying on Fur Tracers...Fly Tying 101
Post by: wv lungbuster on February 18, 2010, 02:30:00 PM
Great idea thanks.
Title: Re: Tying on Fur Tracers...Fly Tying 101
Post by: Jack Denbow on February 18, 2010, 02:34:00 PM
Cool, Doc.
Title: Re: Tying on Fur Tracers...Fly Tying 101
Post by: Predator Man on February 18, 2010, 02:38:00 PM
I wonder if fletch tape would work for this???  I think I will try some as I have all the materials at home.
Title: Re: Tying on Fur Tracers...Fly Tying 101
Post by: maineac on February 18, 2010, 03:20:00 PM
Great tutorial, I'llhave to give it a shot.
Title: Re: Tying on Fur Tracers...Fly Tying 101
Post by: Morgan Anderson on February 18, 2010, 03:46:00 PM
The fletch tape might be a good idea.
Title: Re: Tying on Fur Tracers...Fly Tying 101
Post by: zip on February 18, 2010, 03:51:00 PM
Doc; thanx for the tutorial. I'm going to try your way as soon as I get the fur and bobbin.
Title: Re: Tying on Fur Tracers...Fly Tying 101
Post by: tippit on February 18, 2010, 03:53:00 PM
Fletch tape will work, but it doesn't hold up as well for me.  This is just my method.  Since I tie up fly fishing flies anyway, it is pretty easy...Doc
Title: Re: Tying on Fur Tracers...Fly Tying 101
Post by: Jerry Wald on February 18, 2010, 06:26:00 PM
Contact cement on both the shaft and the strip should work...same as the spiral flu flu demo right.

Jer
Title: Re: Tying on Fur Tracers...Fly Tying 101
Post by: metsastaja on February 22, 2010, 07:15:00 PM
Doc wanted to say thanks for the how to.  Was putting some new arrows together.  Hope not to loose these.

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 (http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii45/heilakka/P1000250.jpg)

Thanks again
Title: Re: Tying on Fur Tracers...Fly Tying 101
Post by: ryped on February 22, 2010, 08:24:00 PM
Thanks for the how to. I agree with Chris, combines 2 of my favorite things.
Title: Re: Tying on Fur Tracers...Fly Tying 101
Post by: Chris Surtees on February 22, 2010, 09:02:00 PM
Very cool Doc   :thumbsup:    :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Tying on Fur Tracers...Fly Tying 101
Post by: twitchstick on February 23, 2010, 08:55:00 AM
Pretty cool! Fuzzy bunny tracers. Combining my two passions.  :campfire:
Title: Re: Tying on Fur Tracers...Fly Tying 101
Post by: vermonster13 on February 23, 2010, 09:14:00 AM
Thanks for sharing Doc.
Title: Re: Tying on Fur Tracers...Fly Tying 101
Post by: Shaun on February 23, 2010, 09:26:00 AM
Doc, great method. I have been using super glue and self cut strips of white rabbit fur but your method looks more solid and more fun.

That's a hippie looking fishing vest and bead tool necklace in your bear scouting pic. Very cool! I will be hunting bears in NB next May and there are rumored to be similar fish in the area I am hunting.
Title: Re: Tying on Fur Tracers...Fly Tying 101
Post by: maxwell on February 23, 2010, 09:32:00 AM
Very nice
Title: Re: Tying on Fur Tracers...Fly Tying 101
Post by: on February 23, 2010, 10:49:00 AM
ive glued them but never thought to tie them, hmm,learned something today. thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Tying on Fur Tracers...Fly Tying 101
Post by: amar911 on February 23, 2010, 08:21:00 PM
Doc,

Flyfishing is just another way of hunting with stick and string.   :thumbsup:  

Allan