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Main Boards => The Shooters FORM Board => Topic started by: Al Kidner on July 09, 2006, 03:42:00 AM
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Hi all,
Well just come in from a little bow practice in the back yard and to add in a bit of fun I thought I'd video my form.
Well all looked O.K but I did notice that I'd drop my bow arm a little upon dumping the string, what does this do to your shot and arrow placement?
Also How do I post my video link? Not sure, any helpers on here?
Regards, alan in Oz. :wavey:
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Hi Alan!
I think you are supposed to keep it up until your projectile reaches the target. (your arm, that is.) :saywhat:
Photobucket now hosts video, have you an account with them? Here is my pluck;
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/Killdeer/Videos/My%20Shooting/th_MVI_3238.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v249/Killdeer/Videos/My%20Shooting/?action=view¤t=MVI_3238.flv)
Killdeer
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Dropping your arm will cause you to shoot low on shots over probably 15 yards away or more. If you push with your bow arm it will help with the dropping. Joseph
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Just concentrate on keeping your bow hand pointing at the target until AFTER the arrow hits the target. Dropping your hand should only make the arrow go low, but it can also go left or right if you don't drop it straight down. Bottom line, drop your bow hand and you don't know where your arrow's going to hit.
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I'll try PhotoBucket ASAP. See how that turns out. Stay tuned.
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Here we go?
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v504/Longbow_lad/th_MVI_0329.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v504/Longbow_lad/?action=view¤t=MVI_0329.flv)
Lets take alooksee.....
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I'll post another if you all can see that? I can not see yours or mine Killy? Only here the sound?
Sorry for the funny colours. Had the new Cam set up all wrong. Not sure whats going on there...
al
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When I was in the air force I was on a combat pistol and rifle team; and after doing well with that; I came home and totally failed: at being a good shot with a friends muzzleloader.
What I had to do with the muzzleloader was to try and keep the sight on target- until the bullet hit the target.
When I started dropping my arm shooting my bow it clicked in me that I had to do the same thing.
As suggested by the others - keep everything in place until the arrow hits the target.
You might still drop your arm a little- but practicing at keeping in place: will give the arrow time to get too the target.
It really helps accuracy and its a good thing you noticed it.
Don't grasp the bow tight though; maybe others do; but I have found that just letting the handle settle into my palm is best for accuracy. I don't consiously grip the bow at all. In fact I once broke my ring finger on my left hand and had to get a bow sling- to keep the bow from falling to the ground; when I shot. I guess that one finger is holding the bow at the shot?
If you really want to see what sucks about your form; shoot an opposite hand bow. Fred Bear told me this and then laughed at what happened- when I shot a left handed bow. Because whatever you do with the bow you shoot that is poor form: will become horrendously obvious at the shot- horrendously !!!
Being the delight of Freds sense of humor- was humbling enough: to not ever forget!! :)
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I ahave to keep that bow arm up till I see the arrow hit the target or hear it hit the target or deer. I see a lot of guys doing this and see it as a major fault. I also see them thru there arm to the left for a rh shooter to push the arrow into the target. The key is as Brian said above, you got to pick a spot and keep your eye on it till you see the arrow hit. That bow arm should be keep up and the draw hand should be coming straight back as you release.
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Good Form Ms KillDeer!! Aussie, I didnt see very much Drop in Your Shot! Not Bad at all, of course we can ALL Improve our Form, but yours looked pretty Good!! :thumbsup: :archer:
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Follow through! I am convinced that as many (maybe more) mistakes are made with the bow arm than the release.
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For me, that is the one thing I've always had to watch myself the closest with. If I miss low, that is usually the culprit. Fortunately, I've about broken myself from it, but remain ever vigilent :knothead: .
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That looks like mighty fine form to me. Of course, the way I shoot everybody else's form looks good. :)
Your white balance is off on the video. Looks like your set up for flourescent lighting. Change your white balance setting to 5600K (or "outdoor" if you lack manual controls) to more closely match natural lighting. Artificial light is around 3200K. If your cam is capable of full manual white balancing do this with a pure white or very, very light grey card before shooting every time you turn your cam on. Video cams have to be told what white is before they can accurately duplicate the rest of the color spectrum.
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Thanks all for the pointers. I'll keep up with more training. Just discipline thats all it is. Here is another one for you all to look at.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v504/Longbow_lad/th_MVI_0330.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v504/Longbow_lad/?action=view¤t=MVI_0330.flv)
Again sorry for the wackie colours...
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Lookin good Al!
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Al, you have a solid anchor and excellent smooth release.That is the hardest part IMO. I question the 2 step draw though. Im sure it works out good on target but on game I think you may have some difficulty.As for the bow arm moving a bit it doesnt look that bad.Maybe you have too much weight with that quiver on it! Just make believe someone is taking your picture while you shoot and hold the position.
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al, you look like a champ to me.if you're consistent you're probably hitting your knocks.see
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That is being caused by the weight of the quiver.
I find I tend to do this to a degree when I use a bow quiver, unless I concentrate. When I use a side or hip quiver and shoot w/o anything on the bow it doesn't happen.
On a similar note, I know a guy who has target panic so bad (and knows it) that he shoots by coming to full draw with his arrow well above the target, pulling his bow arm down, and releasing as he passes his POA! It's really strange to see, but he's amazingly accurate and a very successful bowhunter...
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Last night was the kids night archery league, and I noticed my son dropping his bow arm at release(peeking?). I pointed that out to him and he tried to correct it. Sometimes successfully, sometimes not. Have him try pushing bow to target?
Steve
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Hi all,
Well I just poped into the Shooters Forum and found my old thread posted to again... a blast from the past!
Anyways, getting back to my problem...
cvarcher; mate, the two stage draw helped me in slowing down my shooting & reaching anchor. I had developed a bit of "IT" and this helped in my "mind set" of shooting. I was just drawing to quicky and built up a habbit of snap shooting.
Also I like shooting with a heavy weighted bow, hence the bow quiver and Kingwood BW.And I'm a hunter first, archer 2nd and this stye has worked in the bush before.
As for droping my bow arm, I kicked that habbit by doing just what others said, not to peek at the target and hold still untill the arrow hits home.
Now... to tackle my new PLX Widow when I land home again on R&R.
Regards,
AK.